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lethal
Meh.......



Registered: May 2003
Location: Sydney, OZ
Cool Oopsy.... Ecstacy Damage Research WRONG!!!

Scientists admit: we were wrong about 'E'

Experts who gave a dramatic warning that ecstasy led to brain damage based their study on a huge blunder, reports health editor Jo Revill

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_n...37007%2c00.html


Well theres a big fuckin suprise!!!


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Old Post Sep-11-2003 03:21  Australia
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Sid
uncle thiddles



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia

hahahahahaha stupid Americans ! bring on da 'E'


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Psygnosis
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney

Tomorrow they will say it is bad again, they never have their facts right until it gets really proven.

People with Parkinsons Disease take Es and THEIR doctors who recommended it said it was safe aswell because it actually helps them act normal.

so theirs always 2 versions of a fact.


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futurevision
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: SYDNEY

my friend she takes alot of E (bi-weekly basis)
and some how
just the way she speaks and walks
it has some effect on her no?

oh never mind hahaha
thats slack
i am just feeling mean today..

does it make your brain lag tho?
heavy users seem to always have MAJOR brain lag for some reason
or is it just them being them?

Last edited by futurevision on Sep-11-2003 at 03:41

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Psygnosis
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney

It's the long term effects that they can't see.

In school they gave us a "Don't Do Drugs" booklet that told you the sideeffects of E's to Marijuana...pretty bad ones i can tell you.


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euphoria@aus
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Gold Coast, Australia

There has been a lot of lies told in the whole "War on Drugs" campaign. They make marijuana out to be evil and destructive never once mentioning the amounts of lives destroyed by alcohol. In the United States a campaign was launched trying to convince people that marijuana sponsors terrorism which is just bollocks because it was mainly european countries that bought hash of the Afghanis, while the US got most of it's produce either from local plantations or from Southern America.

Of course im not trying to say that marijuana or e have no harmful effects im just simply implying that the harmful effects are much more neglegible then what the government would like people to believe. Driving in peak-hour traffic and inhaling carbon monoxide fumes can also be a health hazard as can be many other things however you dont see many pamphlets distributed about those.

I think this issue comes down to the matter of control, the governemnt is aware of the mind expanding properties of these drugs as they help most people to think outside the square, and sometimes the thoughts they have are not beneficial to the ruling class, especially a conservative one such as ours.

It is amazing to see that countries such as the Netherlands can be mature about the drug issue, accept the fact that people always had and always will be using drugs and get on with their lives. And as can be seen from the afore mentioned example such a decision has not hindered their economy in the slightest. So you really can have your cake and eat it too you just can't be a bitch about it.


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Old Post Sep-11-2003 04:17  Australia
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escee
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Perth, Australia

i suppose we can all start taking e with out worry then!?

oh wait
no we cant
because these reports are a bullshit and usually boil down to who has enough money to get the medias attention (read: who usually skimped the most on research). Basing drug taking descisions off these reports, while better than listening to a dealer, is still pretty flawed.

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DJ_Ballistic
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia

i thought it was proven ages ago, that it's not ecstacy that's bad for you, but the stuff they cut it with (ie mcdonald's soft serve ice-cream)


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euphoria@aus
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Gold Coast, Australia

Not only the cutting agents are a problem but also uneducated people that use E and die from dehydration mix it with DXM and other stupid crap like that. Before you do anything do your research!!!


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OLi_A
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: sydney

you cant possibly believe that drugs actually dont affect your brain?
most things leave my brain scattered for a week or so
but i just got a weak head

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lethal
Meh.......



Registered: May 2003
Location: Sydney, OZ

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis

People with Parkinsons Disease take Es and THEIR doctors who recommended it said it was safe aswell because it actually helps them act normal.

so theirs always 2 versions of a fact.


I think your talking about pot here, not E.... pot helps parkinsons sufferers cause it stops their shakes and lets them live there lives normally.... E is a lil different to that, wouldnt you agree...

Theres a lot of shit been written about all the drugs in the world and about how dangerous they are but i still find it incredibly funny that a drug which is KNOWN and GUARANTEED to kill you - TOBACCO is legal, whilst one which is only suspected to harm you (and the evidence is beginning to point towards no permanent damage from Ecstacy) is illegal....

Can someone explain this to me in a way which i wont be able to shoot down in 10 seconds flat???

I FUCKIN doubt it!!!


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Old Post Sep-11-2003 06:05  Australia
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Chookie
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Registered: Jan 2003
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Ive seen the effects of e on people who take it often and have been doing it for a while, they are very vaugue and def have brain lag!

But hey, too much of ANYTHING is bad for you, that's what too much means!


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