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bent
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Perth
The Fascination of Vinyl ...

I've been mixing on traktor for a few months now, and I'm looking to invest in a set of decks (NB: I don't have lots of money). At the moment, im leaning towards getting turntables, since it seems more hands-on/interesting ... CD decks seems boring, just like mixing on the computer. What I wanna know is, does the fascination of vinyl .. cuein' and rockin' the beat, and handling it ever wear off? I just don't wanna spend shitloads on committing to vinyl and then just getting bored with it and wish i bought CDs instead. I think my want for vinyl is just a fad that i'll get over if i get turntables .. i love watching PVD in videos and shit with the single-ear shoulder listening, and rockin' the record etc and (this'll prolly sound lame)just kinda wanna do what he does lol ...

Anyhow, i just wanna know if any of you guys have got sick of touching/handling the vinyl and suggest whether i should by turntables of cd decks. Cheers!

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djlemeir
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Registered: Dec 2002
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if dj's have been using the technics for over 30 yrs,, no one got bored

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Omegasox
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Registered: Sep 2002
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I don't think it's possible to get sick of using vinyl.

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Rememberence_
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Registered: Oct 2002
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I think if you have a real passion for the music that you spin, vinyl will give you a more realistic feel because you are in total control of it. There's no lag like on traktor, or hidden feel that you get with a CDJ where the cd is in some drive where you can't see it... vinyl certainly is a more wholesome and passionate experience imo, and aslong as you are passionate about the music you're spinning, you'll love your turntables. good luck


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Zzyzx
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Las Vegas, NV

I spun with CD's for 12 years and have switched to vinyl. The reasons for me are the following in no particular order:

More titles available on vinyl (insanely more)
The sound is richer, warmer, whatever
More interactive then CD, i.e Fun

To tell you the truth, i wish i would have taken the vinyl path from the get go, so happy i switched

Zzyzx

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Yan
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Wano

I'd suggest going to a local store, like Sam Ash, and asking to use their turntables. Also, go to your local small music store (That supplies vinyls). Mine, let's me use their turntables to listen to vinyls that are already in open packages, prior to me buying them (Only as long as I bring my headphones). If you think you can spend X amount of hours every week, mixing, then you're ready! =D

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MERiDiAN5i2
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Texas, USA

nope.. it doesnt wear off, if gets stronger and stronger.

the more skills you get with vinyl, the more fun it becomes. you realize all these cool things you can do that you never thought of before, because vinyl is physical and flexible.

the more I learn, the more I love the medium.

vinyl has this little thing called accuracy - an analog pitch fader. no .1% resoltion like a CD deck.. so if you have the skills to really beatmatch, you can make your mixes stay on target alot longer.

there's also something about the waveform a good turntable cartidge generates, and the low input signal level. it's very conducive to air-tight beat matching - the smooth analog waveforms tend to blend with eachother in very pleasing fashion...

but with anything, the more control and ability to control, the more skill required. getting the feel for vinyl and really being able to work with it takes a lot of practice!

but, it's not hard. very straight forward. start/stop, pitch and 33/45. that's it.

no looping, fancy buttons, LCD displays, BPM counters, cueing controls, etc. who needs it!

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brian
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Addison, TX

Meridian said it all -- the words of a true vinyl lover. I wholeheartedly agree

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Yan
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Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2
nope.. it doesnt wear off, if gets stronger and stronger.

the more skills you get with vinyl, the more fun it becomes. you realize all these cool things you can do that you never thought of before, because vinyl is physical and flexible.

the more I learn, the more I love the medium.

vinyl has this little thing called accuracy - an analog pitch fader. no .1% resoltion like a CD deck.. so if you have the skills to really beatmatch, you can make your mixes stay on target alot longer.

there's also something about the waveform a good turntable cartidge generates, and the low input signal level. it's very conducive to air-tight beat matching - the smooth analog waveforms tend to blend with eachother in very pleasing fashion...

but with anything, the more control and ability to control, the more skill required. getting the feel for vinyl and really being able to work with it takes a lot of practice!

but, it's not hard. very straight forward. start/stop, pitch and 33/45. that's it.

no looping, fancy buttons, LCD displays, BPM counters, cueing controls, etc. who needs it!


Very, VERY well put. **Applauds**

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bent
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Perth

Thanks a heap for all ur responses!

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raaven
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Registered: Apr 2003
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records have always fascinated me and always will

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Dzokayi
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Houston, Texas, USA TXTA#32
I spin both...

And I am impartial.... certainly turntables are a bit more elegant...more like a piece of fine, minimalist industrial art - form & function in balance.

But the jabs against CD players are unwarranted and not based in fact. The Pioneer decks, for example, offer 0.02% pitch resolution, not 0.1% as stated earlier. I can let a 2 - 3 minute mix ride on CDJs, turntables, or any combination thereof - without fiddling with the fader.

I understand that some of you guys are die-hard vinyl loyalists, and that's cool, but take off the rose-colored glasses when someone comes in here asking for objective, factual information.

CDs offer a wealth of creative possibilities with looping, hot cues, etc. You can really add a LOT to your sets with a good CDJ. I'm of the 'less is more' school of thought when it comes to effects & such, but a well placed loop, vocal stab or sample can really make a track come alive.

Do I think a CDJ1000 will age as gracefully as a Technics 1200? No, it will look clunky just as the CDJ500II does now, but hey... looks aren't everything....

Anyway bent, it comes down to personal preference. If you just like handling the vinyl, go for turntables.... if mixing the music is of paramount importance - no matter the medium - you might look at CDs.

Of course, if you go for the CDJ1000, 800, or Denon's decks (or even the new Technics) you'll find that it is still a very manually intensive process: cueing up your track, rocking it back & forth to find the perfect release point, swapping discs, scratching, etc. It's very similar to handling vinyl if you want it to be. Of course you can use them as traditional CD players too and eliminate a lot of the platter manipulation.

I would say this: Grab some CDs, records, & cartridges. Go to your nearest dealer, and play on the stuff. Go several times a week for a month. You will develop a preference. Go from there.

Cheers.

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