Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Wisconsin, USA CTA #23
GEOMETRY GURUS!!! Area of an Oval - SOLVE!
OK...here's the deal. Take a look at the image below. An oval (an oddball ellipse) is made up of four intersecting circles. The ONLY dimensions known are shown on the image. What forumla would be needed to find the area, or even the lenghth (on the Y axis) of the oval? Myself and my boss have beat ourselves up for the last 2 hours trying to figure this out.
Keep in mind that this is NOT a true ellipse. A true ellipse is easy to figure out Pi(R1*R2). This DOES NOT work in this scenario.
Let's see how smart the TAs truly are
Nov-11-2003 23:05
Vivid Boy
TA's GodFather
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: T.O
why do ppl come to the chillout room to do their homework...and they make it sound like theyre trying to test u to see how intelligent u are but really theyre just stuck on question 6 on page 5
Nov-11-2003 23:07
whiskers
old skool
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams
hm, 4 intersecting circles...?
i'd say try to use calculus & integrals; maybe arclength, but it's not gonna be pretty.
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Nov-11-2003 23:10
biznology
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2000
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
why do ppl come to the chillout room to do their homework...and they make it sound like theyre trying to test u to see how intelligent u are but really theyre just stuck on question 6 on page 5
Nah Vivid, this is for when you are grocery shopping and they wont let you buy groceries because you cant do math, so if you wanna eat you have to solve confusing math probs|
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Nov-11-2003 23:11
DJ_NRG
Armin was Robbed!!!
Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Wisconsin, USA CTA #23
quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
why do ppl come to the chillout room to do their homework...and they make it sound like theyre trying to test u to see how intelligent u are but really theyre just stuck on question 6 on page 5
Actually, did you even read my post? I stated that my boss and I have spent about 2 hours trying to solve this and we are stumped....doesn't that say flat out that I don't know? I didn't think this was a test. I simply need the answer, and I'm out of resources...
Edit: And no...this isn't homework. Its actually job related. Regardless, I'm stumped!
Nov-11-2003 23:15
MERTON
Suspended User
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: wilmer, texas
would you get the right answer if you just found the perimeter and changed it into a circle?
is this like something from that math test that's the hardest in the world and only has like 12 questions? cus it sure looks like it... i say there is no way you can really find it.. that's what i wanna say
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Nov-11-2003 23:20
Boomer187
Spicy Hotdog
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA
looks like you did this in autocad or osmehting similar, can you find the area and just work backwards.
Nov-11-2003 23:30
DJ_NRG
Armin was Robbed!!!
Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Wisconsin, USA CTA #23
quote:
Originally posted by MERTON
would you get the right answer if you just found the perimeter and changed it into a circle?
is this like something from that math test that's the hardest in the world and only has like 12 questions? cus it sure looks like it... i say there is no way you can really find it.. that's what i wanna say
No, this is not from that test. This is an actual scenario that I have encountered at work (I work IS/Programming for a glass manufacturing facility). We need to determine the actual yield of a particular shape when the piece of glass is cut.
We have pretty much decided, as well, that it may be impossible...
Nov-11-2003 23:31
montie
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_NRG
No, this is not from that test. This is an actual scenario that I have encountered at work (I work IS/Programming for a glass manufacturing facility). We need to determine the actual yield of a particular shape when the piece of glass is cut.
We have pretty much decided, as well, that it may be impossible...
no its not impossible
there has to be some equation behind it it.
can you give us a better picture of what your describing?
its hard for me to figure out what we have as a given
Nov-11-2003 23:33
DJ_NRG
Armin was Robbed!!!
Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Wisconsin, USA CTA #23
quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
looks like you did this in autocad or osmehting similar, can you find the area and just work backwards.
It was done in AutoCad 2004, and even that program does not find the area of an oval. It will give us the length, but in our workplace, the length is an unknown value, because it is not necessary to actually know the length to draw the shape.
Nov-11-2003 23:33
MERTON
Suspended User
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: wilmer, texas
if you're the ones making the dimensions.. then where is the rest of the info? i mean.. damn.. this is like beyond a resonable level of difficulty for something you're actually able to physically deal with.
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Nov-11-2003 23:34
Boomer187
Spicy Hotdog
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_NRG
It was done in AutoCad 2004, and even that program does not find the area of an oval. It will give us the length, but in our workplace, the length is an unknown value, because it is not necessary to actually know the length to draw the shape.
eh it has been 2 years but I konw there is a way, I think if you pline the entire thing you can get stats on it that describe area. I forget teh actual commands btu I think I remember doing the same thing before.
