I finally got to listen to Tiesto @ Arnhem, its a great great set, but when Andain comes on, she can't sing very well, her voice is shaky and all, but it does sound like her. Whats the deal here? Summer calling, beautiful things are great songs, but is it computer altered?

most live acts can't very well - Iio, Jan Johnson and Marcella Woods have all been crap when I've seen them. Jess from Motorcycle was 'okay' at the NEC, but not amazing

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thanx Ste

i remember thinking the exact same thing...i kinda sucks when i listen to that set i have to skip all the andain songs (which i normally love) because her voice is just awful

Ever sung in front of a group of people? Get a bit nervous?

Well multiply that by 25,000. Singing in front of a live audience isn't easy, especially a live audience that big directly in front of you.

The other problem is that she is singing over the the vinyl copy, not a dubbed karaoke version, meaning that her original vocals can still be heard. So when she *slightly* misses a note, it sounds horrific because the tones clash (as the difference in pitch between two notes gets closer, the discord becomes worse). Your average pop star, or someone singing the national anthem at the football doesn't have this problem.

Then again, most people just lip-sync anyway....

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Ever sung in front of a group of people? Get a bit nervous? Well multiply that by 25,000. Singing in front of a live audience isn't easy, especially a live audience that big directly in front of you. The other problem is that she is singing over the the vinyl copy, not a dubbed karaoke version, meaning that her original vocals can still be heard. So when she *slightly* misses a note, it sounds horrific because the tones clash (as the difference in pitch between two notes gets closer, the discord becomes worse). Your average pop star, or someone singing the national anthem at the football doesn't have this problem.

Her voice was shakey, probably nervous. The thing is, it messes up the set. I seen on some of those mtv award shows when others singing over a copy and its not bad.

Actually, right now as im typing im listening to part 2 of the set around 53 mins and its jan johnston singing over skydive It sounds very very good Then again, jan's had some practice with this tune anyways

I love this set: Dj Tiesto - In Concert Gelredome Arnhem (Holland) 05-11-03

Dmatrox...where did you find this set to listen to? Was it streamed? Or did you buy it? I'd like to hear it...

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Originally posted by Dmatrox Her voice was shakey, probably nervous. The thing is, it messes up the set. I seen on some of those mtv award shows when others singing over a copy and its not bad.

The difference with those MTV award shows is that they're probably not singing at all, just pretending. Or they're singing but the microphone isn't turned on

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did you listen to the jan johnston part? wow.

and about award shows. sometimes they do lip sink, sometimes they dont and you know it because it sounds different.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox did you listen to the jan johnston part? wow. and about award shows. sometimes they do lip sink, sometimes they dont and you know it because it sounds different.

So care to explain the procedure for lip sinking to me? I'm a *bit* confused...

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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker So care to explain the procedure for lip sinking to me? I'm a *bit* confused...

sure. lip sinking is just pretending you are singing by moving your lips to the words but not actually singing.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox sure. lip sinking is just pretending you are singing by moving your lips to the words but not actually singing.

wow.. that was funny.. I was just knocking on you because you misspelled it.. lip syncing is the term you're looking for i believe.

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