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King_Mack
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-ING ....help???

grammar time*

when conjugating to the present tense, when do you double the consonant?

ie. to run --> i am running
to hide --> i am hiding
to iron --> i am ironing

a friend wasn't sure how to spelling modelling/modeling.. word accepts both, dictionary.com has both ways. which is it?! and what's the common rule for this? i always thought it was double when it ends in a consonant and there's a vowel preceding the last letter. then in grade 2 i learned how to spell ironing.. my theory crumbled

im arguing with a friend about it now...and he says modelling and modeling are two different words. Im saying theyre the exact same meaning. Can someone give me some solid proof? I know theres several smarties on this board, the best I can offer him was the dictionary term of both, but he's swinging back with stupid arguments. Help?!

Thanks in advance


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klingklang77
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i dont think there is any real rule for it, with consonants and vowels. i think it is just one of those things that is memorised. i could be wrong, english is my native language, so it might be best to ask someone who is studying english, they usually have the answers for these types of things.

as for the difference between modelling and modeling, i *think* there is NO difference in meaning. one is american english and one is british english.

for example-
in america- traveling
in UK- travelling

i am pretty sure on this, but a slight bit unsure....


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Re: -ING ....help???

quote:
Originally posted by King_Mack
grammar time*

when conjugating to the present tense, when do you double the consonant?

ie. to run --> i am running
to hide --> i am hiding
to iron --> i am ironing

a friend wasn't sure how to spelling modelling/modeling.. word accepts both, dictionary.com has both ways. which is it?! and what's the common rule for this? i always thought it was double when it ends in a consonant and there's a vowel preceding the last letter. then in grade 2 i learned how to spell ironing.. my theory crumbled

im arguing with a friend about it now...and he says modelling and modeling are two different words. Im saying theyre the exact same meaning. Can someone give me some solid proof? I know theres several smarties on this board, the best I can offer him was the dictionary term of both, but he's swinging back with stupid arguments. Help?!

Thanks in advance


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First rule of English: disregard all rules of common sense and logic when it comes to grammar.


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When the last sillable is

consonant + vowel + consonant

You double the last consonant

CVC
run -> running

CVCCC
catch -> cathing


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quote:
Originally posted by Delay Llama
When the last sillable is

consonant + vowel + consonant

You double the last consonant

CVC
run -> running

CVCCC
catch -> cathing



You've deciphered the code! o.o!


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quote:
Originally posted by Delay Llama
When the last sillable is

consonant + vowel + consonant

You double the last consonant

CVC
run -> running

CVCCC
catch -> cathing



if it were only so simple.

the aforementioned rule cannot be applied to the word: skiing

im w/ the guy who said to disregard all rules of common sense & logic w/ english grammar.


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quote:
Originally posted by BLuEOcEaN420
if it were only so simple.

the aforementioned rule cannot be applied to the word: skiing

im w/ the guy who said to disregard all rules of common sense & logic w/ english grammar.

Well thats because ski doesnt end in a consonant

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I'm studying linguistics so I should know this, but I don't


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BLuEOcEaN420
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Well thats because ski doesnt end in a consonant


hahahahaha how i managed to not notice the obvious is beyond me... lol....

i still say that the english grammar has too many exceptions. easier to memorize things case by case. rather than to try to apply the rules and make exceptions. heh


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my 2cents: pray that word gets it right


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King_Mack
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Re: Re: -ING ....help???

quote:
Originally posted by T-1000
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least to say
id bone her




so no one really has a rebuttal for me basically? lol ive taken what some have said into consideration


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