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malek
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Exclamation Iran warns Israel against attack

Wednesday 24 December 2003, 17:00 GMT

Iran's Defence Minister Ali Shamkhani has said that the medium-range Shahab-3 missiles would be deployed if Israel attacked its nuclear facilities.


"We will use all strike weapons at our disposal and the Shahab-3 missile is one of those," Shamkhani told reporters on Wednesday after a cabinet meeting.

He was replying to a query about whether Tehran would retaliate with missiles if Israel made good its threats to take out Iranian nuclear sites.

Earlier this year, the air force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps took delivery of several domestically built Shahab-3 missiles, with a range of between 1,300 and 1,500 km, sufficient to reach Israel.

Arch foe

The Tel Aviv daily Haaretz on Sunday quoted Israeli Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz as warning that the Jewish state was considering striking the nuclear facilities of Iran.

Israel now regards Iran its arch foe, despite an agreement earlier this month to submit them to snap UN inspections.

If such attacks are launched, "the necessary steps will be taken so that Iranian citizens will not be harmed," the daily quoted Mofaz as saying.

"The remarks by the Israeli war minister Mofaz show that the Zionist regime is a pariah regime"

The Iranian defence minister said: "Israel is a glass garrison, but the Zionist regime leaders think that this garrison should have sovereignty over the whole world."

"The Israeli threats will not have any effect on the decisions of Iran. If threats against Iran are to be carried out, the Islamic Republic of Iran will answer with all its forces", he said.


Highly capable

On Monday, the head of the Iranian air force, Brigadier General Seyed Reza Pardis, warned that Israel will "dig its own grave" if it attacks Iranian nuclear sites.

"The threats of the Zionist regime hold no value for us," he said, adding: "The (Zionist) regime knows that the armed forces of the Islamic republic, in particular our air force, have such high capabilities ... that it would be digging its own grave in the region if it launches military attacks against Iran."

Iran last week won plaudits from the international community by signing the additional protocol of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that opens the way for snap UN inspections of sites.

Iran says Israel should now follow its lead and bring its own nuclear facilities under international supervision.


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Cyrus King
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Good.

Iran has a right to protect itself if another country struck it for its own reasons.

Israel thinks they are on some crusade


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I too think Isreal is diging is own grave if they ever attack Iran.if such attacks by Isreal do take place,that region will turn into the biggest war zone.
I hope Isreal isnt stupid enough to take such actions,They cannot and shouldnt underestimate,and if they think Iran is a easy target,they should think twice.The military powers of Iran has grown alot since the war with Iraq,and they are one of the most powerful in that region atm.

I personally think Isreal should STFU,and mind its own damn business.I dont think they should have nukes,but hey it is ok for them right??they are protecting their citizens!!


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I thought that this was an appropriate article in reinforcing Israel's veiled threat.


quote:

Israel's Threat To World Peace

by James J. David
(Wednesday 24 December 2003)


"Libya has never been a threat to the United States, and for that matter, Iraq was never a threat to the United States. The only threat Iraq or Libya posed was a threat to Israel's dominance of nuclear weapons in the Middle East."



It seems that the entire world is praising American and British diplomacy for its efforts in convincing Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi in announcing that Libya would cease work on its programs to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. This is quite an accomplishment, considering that Libya has been listed for more than 17years by the U.S. State Department as one of the major countries supporting state terrorism.

As wonderful as this news may be, the United States needs to concentrate its efforts towards the real obstacle to world peace. Libya was no threat to world peace, and neither was Iraq. If the United States devotes as much effort in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as they did with Libya's weapons of mass destruction then maybe the American people could rest a bit easier.

According to a recent poll by the Anti-Defamation League, forty-two percent of the American people consider Israel as a threat to world peace. What's even more astonishing is the result of a recent European poll that found 59 percent of Europeans considered Israel as the major threat to world peace with the United States coming in second. Libya wasn't even mentioned.

Libya has never been a threat to the United States, and for that matter, Iraq was never a threat to the United States. The only threat Iraq or Libya posed was a threat to Israel's dominance of nuclear weapons in the Middle East.

While Iraq failed to obey one UN resolution fast enough, Israel has steadfastly refused to obey not just one UN resolution, but an incredible 69 UN resolutions. Israel's actions have brought outrage from a majority of the UN's member states on 69 separate occasions. They have condemned Israel for the destruction of Arab villages, for the murder of innocent women and children, for making war on neighboring states, for refusing to withdraw from invaded and occupied territory, for killing protesting students, for killing civilians protesting being expelled from their homes, for a transcontinental bombing raid against Tunisia, and for dozens of other violations. And on 29 other occasions, UN resolutions with real teeth in them, calling for Israel to withdraw from stolen land and allow self-determination for the Palestinian people among other things, would have been adopted but were vetoed by the one dissenting vote of the United States. When it comes to the exercising of any kind of real power against those who violate UN resolutions, it seems that some countries are "more equal than others." Israel gets away not only with an expansionist foreign policy, but with repeatedly and endlessly violating the most elementary human rights of her subject peoples. Although Israel's PR men would have us believe that Israel is an island of Western values in the Middle East, the truth is quite the opposite. Not only does Israel violate the most fundalmental human rights laws but Israel is also guilty of assassination, kidnapping, expulsion, detention without charges or trial, land confiscation, and collective punishment - not to mention Israel's long-standing practice of espionage against the United States, its principal benefactor and the attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American sailors and injured another 171.

Hardly a day goes by without the Israelis killing innocent Palestinian men, women, and children. Today they killed 8 Palestinians and wounded an estimated 300. Three days ago they killed a 6-year-old Palestinain boy just hours before a 13-year-old Palestinian boy died from a gunshot to his head. Twenty Palestinians have been killed in the past two weeks even though there hasn't been even one suicide bombing in over two months. And just last week the Israelis shot and killed a 21-year-old pregnant Palestinian mother trying to take her young son to the hospital. The Israelis have killed more than 500 women and children in the past 3 years. They have demolished more than 3000 Palestinian homes, causing more than 17,000 homeless, including 2300 children.

These stories never make the Headline News or the front pages of your local newspapers. You don't see President Bush or Condoleezza Rice out on the front lawn of the White House condemning the Israelis for killing innocent men, women, and especially children. The United States talks about a balanced Middle East Policy but just look at what we actually practice. We have one standard for the treatment of Israelis that is so high they cannot be criticized no matter what grisly crimes they commit. Then we have a second standard for the treatment of Palestinians that is so low we publicly finance their ethnic cleansing and torture.

President Bush may refer to Israeli policies as obstacles to peace but when it comes time for a vote in the U.N. Security Council on the illegal settlements, or the apartheid wall, or on assassinations, or any of the other Israeli criminal acts, the United States vetoes every move to condemn Israeli aggression. The United States could not even bring itself to condemn the Qana Lebanese refugee camp massacre of 1996 in which 103 innocent Lebanese civilians were killed. Is it any wonder the Arab world hates us? Is it any wonder America was attacked? How can the United States strive for world peace when Israel is allowed to do whatever it pleases? Supporting Israel may be politically correct, but the more we look the other way, the more violence there will be. American politicians jump on the Zionist bandwagon simply because they know that is where the power is. The Jewish Anti-Defamation League and the Jewish Lobby and Jewish interest groups have effectively silenced any politician who is critical to Israeli policy.

Is the Israeli lobby and the Jewish control of our American politicians so powerful that our elected officials have lost all sense of moral right? Evidently, former President Jimmy Carter thought so when he was prompted to say, after he left office of course, that no politician dared to oppose its demands, because to do so would be "political suicide." They take our money, we fight and die in their wars, and, since both political parties are in their pocket, the American people don't have any choice in the matter. Sheilding Israel is an international embarrassment and places U.S. citizens in danger around the world, let alone danger to our own nation. It is time for the American people to face the fact that supporting Israel's criminal activities is the greatest threat facing America today. Disguising America's threat with anything else is nothing more than political spin and a decoy used as a means of savings one's career. Placing the blame on Israel would end one's political career.

The recent decision by Libya to abandon its weapons of mass destruction is just one step towards world peace. The bigger step would be for Israel to do the same. It is time for the United States to free itself from the grips of the Jewish lobby and to take a stand on the side of human mankind. It is time to use our foreign aid as leverage and to insist on Israel to abandon its weapons of mass destruction and to abide by International Law. It is time we stop fooling the American people. It is time to get tough with Israel. After all, Israel is the biggest threat to world peace.


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hmmm too bad Israel has already developed the Arrow anti-missle battery, very capable of bringing down any Shahab-3 missiles Iran "will deploy if Israel attacks".


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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
hmmm too bad Israel has already developed the Arrow anti-missle battery, very capable of bringing down any Shahab-3 missiles Iran "will deploy if Israel attacks".


To bad the anti-missle battery can only detonate a missile 40-50 yards before it hits its target...still pretty close to its target...it will be an ugly situation either way...

and make more people hate Israel, an extra 80 million people... oh wait... they already do..


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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
hmmm too bad Israel has already developed the Arrow anti-missle battery, very capable of bringing down any Shahab-3 missiles Iran "will deploy if Israel attacks".


Thats nice,but is it worth attaking another country and risking peoples lives on both sides just for the purpose of self protection??

Isreal would really be digging its own grave if they'd decide to attack Iran.You cant compare Iran to Iraq.They wont just sit and let you attack,believe me on that.

Dont forget that no matter how powerful Isreal is, you are still sorrounded by nations that hate Isreals existance.By attacking Iran,you'll be pissing off countries like Syria and Lebenon,and many european countries who have ties with Iran.


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