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Originally posted by Dopey Maybe Iran should spend more money on constructing 20th century houses and less money supporting terror and WMD programs.

woow what an intelligent comment there!!

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer woow what an intelligent comment there!!

well say whatever u want but it's pretty stupid to spend 5 billion dollars annualy on military when your people are dying under their collapsed mud huts.

they are saying that this earthqauke might have killed 10,000 people. the same caliber earthquake that killed 2 people in california 2 days ago. maybe making sure people are safe from medium earthquakes is more important than establishing yourself as a military power. buts thats just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Dopey well say whatever u want but it's pretty stupid to spend 5 billion dollars annualy on military when your people are dying under their collapsed mud huts. they are saying that this earthqauke might have killed 10,000 people. the same caliber earthquake that killed 2 people in california 2 days ago. maybe making sure people are safe from medium earthquakes is more important than establishing yourself as a military power. buts thats just my opinion.

Well, there's much US could do with billions of dollars it spends on it's own military. Improve the educational system, or give more funding to peace-oriented research and space exploration comes to mind. But let's be realistic. We don't live in a perfect world, and the power of the country is often equal to the power of its military. And the more powerful a country is, the more likely it is for it to be able to walk over other countries and to drain their resources. So in a sense, a strong army is a requirement for prosperity. Sad but true.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Well, there's much US could do with billions of dollars it spends on it's own military. Improve the educational system, or give more funding to peace-oriented research and space exploration comes to mind. But let's be realistic. We don't live in a perfect world, and the power of the country is often equal to the power of its military. And the more powerful a country is, the more likely it is for it to be able to walk over other countries and to drain their resources. So in a sense, a strong army is a requirement for prosperity. Sad but true.

yes but in the US thousands dont die even after far worse earthquakes. my point is that third world countries that have ppl living in mud huts should focus more on being prepared for disasters and less on being equiped to deal with military threats. especially in the last few years since nobody poses a threat to iran except the US, who would destroy the iranian army even if it spent ten times what it does now. it's unacceptable to have a nation that has such poor living conditions spend so much money on defense.

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Originally posted by Dopey Maybe Iran should spend more money on constructing 20th century houses and less money supporting terror and WMD programs.

Your a fucking idiot! Iran does not support terrorism...stop watching the bullshit on TV, it's fucked up your head.

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Originally posted by Dopey well say whatever u want but it's pretty stupid to spend 5 billion dollars annualy on military when your people are dying under their collapsed mud huts.

errr what? so a country buys artilery for their military automatically makes them a terrorist? or are they a terrorist because they are part of the muslim nation...

either way you still haven't got a clue.

I think you really are a Dopey :laugh:

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Originally posted by Psygnosis Your a fucking idiot! Iran does not support terrorism...stop watching the bullshit on TV, it's fucked up your head.

you're saying that Iran has never provided any kind of support for Hezbollah?? I wan't to see you actually say that.

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Originally posted by Psygnosis or are they a terrorist because they are part of the muslim nation

what muslim nation is Iran part of?? lol learn english fool.

I personally can care less how the Iranian government spends its money, my main case however would be that for a nation that has experienced the devastation of such quakes before you figure something should be done to avoid such large number of fatalities, unless of course the Government just ignores it and chooses to not really give a lot of support to people who live in these highly vulnerable regions. The facts are the facts, Iran has dealt with this kind of devastation countless times, why has more not been done for people in these regions, is it for lack of resources, think about it.

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Originally posted by Dopey yes but in the US thousands dont die even after far worse earthquakes.

Still, the point is that there are always good ways to spend money. The problem lies in finding the right balance. Besides, do you really think 9.7 billion $ is that much, considering that the GDP is around 460 billion $, with the annual growth rate of over 7%? It's a whooping 3.1%! Not to mention that it's a country of 70 million people. Now, if an average 5 floor building can house about 30 people, and the cost for such a building is about 2 million $, then those 9.7 billion $ would annually provide housing for a whooping 15 000 people! Now, to house all the 20% of people who work in the agricultural sector (14 million) with the 9.7 billion $ aid, it would take a mere 100 years!

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my point is that third world countries that have ppl living in mud huts should focus more on being prepared for disasters and less on being equiped to deal with military threats.

You can't completely ignore one branch of development in order to fully complement another one. If a country doesn't have much money, it sucks, but it still must balance various aspects of growth instead of throwing all its resources in the same basket. Besides, 3.1% is not that much to spend on an army.

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especially in the last few years since nobody poses a threat to iran except the US, who would destroy the iranian army even if it spent ten times what it does now. it's unacceptable to have a nation that has such poor living conditions spend so much money on defense.

Yes, really, there's no reason for concern, it's only the world's largest military power that's posing a threat. Besides, you overestimate the US military potential. It is already engaged in Iraq and Afghanistan, so its capacity is currently severely limited. Now, while Iran certainly could not win a war due to its military might, if they would manage to make such a war drag on for long enough, US would have to back down because of both internal and international pressure.

But US is certainly not the only threat to Iran. Infact, Iran is positioned in a currently most troublesome area of the Earth (maybe with the exception of subsaharan Africa). Let's see who some of the more interesting Iranian neighbours are. First, there is Iraq, an occupied country in a total mess. Nobody knows how the situation will unfold there. Secondly, there is Afghanistan, a poor country that could hardly be called a stable one. Infact it too only has US to thank for its integrity. Not to mention it's the biggest exporter of opium in the world. A little bit south is Pakistan, a nuclear power that has constant tensions with another nuclear power, India. They also funded the Taliban movement. Internally, things are not all flowery either. Amongst some minorities, there are the ever-present kurds, not to mention a chance of a civil uprising due to currently opressive theocracy. All things considered, Iran has a very good reason for a large military.

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Originally posted by Dopey well say whatever u want but it's pretty stupid to spend 5 billion dollars annualy on military when your people are dying under their collapsed mud huts. they are saying that this earthqauke might have killed 10,000 people. the same caliber earthquake that killed 2 people in california 2 days ago. maybe making sure people are safe from medium earthquakes is more important than establishing yourself as a military power. buts thats just my opinion.

Are you serious? Mud huts?

Wait, i forgot, we also live in Igloos.

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Originally posted by Dopey well say whatever u want but it's pretty stupid to spend 5 billion dollars annualy on military when your people are dying under their collapsed mud huts.

Mud huts???have u lived in Iran or u just saying that because thats what you saw on tv???I suggest you go see that country first before u make any comments like that.

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