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Pappa
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What is your Favorite Waveform

Just trying to pick brains, and find out from ya guys, what WaveForm you guys like to use most.

also, why aren't there more OSC on Hardware Keyboards, from the most I see is 3 OCS and maybe a Sub OCS. Also, are there other WaveForms out there other then

Saw
Square
Sine

or are those all we need to make our awsome sounds.

Granted you got Double Saw and SuperSaw, and Noise, Feedback, and im sure others, but im just seeing what all ya guys use most outthere.

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State of Matter
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Everybody is going to say either Saw (incl doublesaw, supersaw,etc) or Pulsewave (square with pw control) most likely, since these are the basic waves that almost all famous synth sounds come from. There are only a handful of good songs with sine leads (PPK). Most other waveforms are variations of the four basic shapes (sine, saw, square, triangle).

Noise isn't really a waveform because its completely randomly generated. There's no set pattern.


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Pappa
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quote:
Originally posted by State of Matter
Everybody is going to say either Saw (incl doublesaw, supersaw,etc) or Pulsewave (square with pw control) most likely, since these are the basic waves that almost all famous synth sounds come from. There are only a handful of good songs with sine leads (PPK). Most other waveforms are variations of the four basic shapes (sine, saw, square, triangle).

Noise isn't really a waveform because its completely randomly generated. There's no set pattern.


Cool Cool. so out of these basic waveforms, we are pretty much going to overlap on sounds from time to time? or is there enuf to make a new sound that everyone will be like woah!!. I guess it get's down to the nitty gritty of a waveform, and how you change it around? I just hear about some sounds being overused, and if that's all were able to create then, nonthing we can do right??? Unless we invent a new wave form ehehe Will Math allow us to do that

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I like SuperSaw.....

State....: Can you put a sample of DoubleSaw?

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State of Matter
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Doublesaw is a waveform of the Supernova I think. Don't have one of those. Assuming its just two saw waves with one detuned. Pretty easy to make on most VST's I'd imagine.


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5) State of Matter - Saving Icarus (Original Mix)

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Pappa
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quote:
Originally posted by Shahar
I like SuperSaw.....

State....: Can you put a sample of DoubleSaw?



Shahar, soon as I get my ass off and learn the SuperNova II, i'll try and record what a Double Saw sounds like.

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Pjotr G
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quote:
Originally posted by Pappa
I just hear about some sounds being overused, and if that's all were able to create then, nonthing we can do right??? Unless we invent a new wave form ehehe Will Math allow us to do that


There's a lot you can do, especially if you have 2 independent osc's, things like nice modulation sources (LFO's envelopes), features like osc sync, FM, filtering, self-oscillating

Everything messes up the basic waveform

oh btw, an old fairlight synth allowed you do draw your own waveform sounds cool....but really cool modulation allows for more possibilities.


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Pappa
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Cool, so synth's with some sort of Modulation, it takes the basic wave form, and makes it look different depending on the modulation. so a Sinewave with the look it has, when modulated, it won't have the same look no more? Am I picturing this right?

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noikeee
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quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G
oh btw, an old fairlight synth allowed you do draw your own waveform


there a couple vst's that do that.. at least in absynth you can i think


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FuzzyGreen
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My favorite by far is the sine wave.

It is mellow, warm, and bassy.

Listen to Insigma - open our eyes (original club mix)

That warm sinewave sub bass that can be heard in the background of the breakdown is what makes that song perfect.

As for leads, I find most saw epic/melodic arps are a little trite, and quite dated now and prefer not to use them or hear them in new tracks.

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Pjotr G
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I don't find sine very interesting as an osc waveform, because of it's (lack of) harmonic content. That rules out nice filter effects (unless perhaps raw high resonance weird stuff). As a modulation source however it's nice . And to make organ sounds.


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State of Matter
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Sine waves are not generally warm at all, because they aren't harmonic. They're actually very cold and digital. Saw waves contain all harmonies, so they are actually the warmest and thickest sounds (there's a reason they're the most used). Most things you think are sine waves are actually filtered saw waves with a round LPF and some resonance for more warmth. I use a sub bass that sounds like a sine but it's actually a saw.


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3) Scarab - Vagabond (State of Matter Revival Mix)
4) Ferry Corsten & The Thrillseekers - Sublime (State of Matter Revival Mix)
5) State of Matter - Saving Icarus (Original Mix)

https://soundcloud.com/stateofmattermusic

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