Oh look, another techno head that hates on trance. What a surprise.

Funny though that this comes from a guy who was signed to the same label as Paul van Dyk and was involved in a project like Marmion.

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I understand what he means.

Trance changed a lot. Listen to Schoenenberg and listen to the trance played these days. It's become something completely different. Instead of labelling him as a techno-hater, people should listen to what he says. Not that I wholeheartedly agree with him (I don't), but I admit he does have a point. I miss old trance

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Originally posted by Delay Llama I understand what he means. Trance changed a lot. Listen to Schoenenberg and listen to the trance played these days. It's become something completely different. Instead of labelling him as a techno-hater, people should listen to what he says. Not that I wholeheartedly agree with him (I don't), but I admit he does have a point. I miss old trance

Aye, he does have a point. Trance is far from as good as it was thanks to commercialism, but that's not any different than with any other genre, so why single out trance?

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"Wenn du dich zum Untergrund zählst, reicht es nicht, es nur zu sagen. Du musst auch viel graben, um es zu werden."

he is absolutely right, whether u like it or not. most of trance is enormously lame nowadays, with atrc being a prime example of that.

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I guess everything which has been underground will emerge, this happend to some extend when it comes to trance. Nobody exept those who make profits of making these cheezy commercial tunes are to blame, and the way he genralizes the problem really just shows that he should do a bit more research. I think this is a small problem when one looks at all the quality music which is still made.

But I also agree to a certain extent, the commercialized trance is stupid music, simple music by and for simple minds.

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nowadays trance is a stupid commercial music with no part of the past in

I don't think he is hating trance, I think he is telling the truth that the big companies have run trance in commercialization hell.

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Originally posted by Noisician he is absolutely right, whether u like it or not. most of trance is enormously lame nowadays, with atrc being a prime example of that.

what do people see in atrc anyways ?! listen to tiesto @ energy 2000 , now, there is some good ol' trance !

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Originally posted by Powell what do people see in atrc anyways ?! listen to tiesto @ energy 2000 , now, there is some good ol' trance !

I doubt MvD or anyone else in the techno scene would say that Tiesto @ Energy 2000 is any less "stupid" than trance nowadays.

In addition, "most of trance is enormously lame nowadays" is probably as far from an objective statement as you can get.

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Originally posted by psy7 When you dream there are no rules,people can fly...

haha....Astral Projection.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper In addition, "most of trance is enormously lame nowadays" is probably as far from an objective statement as you can get.

no, u are wrong. that one is a direct quote from the bible; therefore it must be taken as an incontrovertible fact.



seriously though, of course that post is subjective. just like 99.9% of other posts on this board. and it was never meant to be considered otherwise. it's not like i'm trying to thrust my opinion on anyone, ffs.

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Whatever. Fuck all the nay-sayers. Trance is life. If you dont understand it, then its not for you. It chooses you, you don't choose it.

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