beatmatching means that the beats are matched... therefore you need pitch control to match up the beats...
all your friend is doing is cutting or fading, whatever term you want to use... when done properly, it can sound like beatmatching to a degree, but essentially, it's just a longer fade

anyone else want to add to this, or correct me?

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naww..but ill back u on it

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well, I know that Jeff Mills often doesn't use the pitch control, but does it manually instead (by pushing and slowing the record down). BUT, this is only possible if (a) the records you use are all only 2 bpm off (like between 134 and 136) and (b) you are a Techno DJ god who has done this all his life.

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The argument is redundant, if he's not using pitch control, he's not beat matching, he's sneaking in the bass line, or mixing during the calm before the storm. Novice style* You have to keep the beat even if they bass lines aren't matched up otherwise the rhythm is all fucked up.

Even if you are a techno god and your using the plate to slow down or speed up the pitch, you are still using pitch control. This dj friend of yours sounds like a real winner, tell him to keep up work and he'll be spinning backstreet boys in no time. =)))



I don't mean to be bitter I just hate morons who tell everyone "ya I spin man, yo I am the best, pitch control is for pussies", and they no shit. People like that should stick to playing video games (no offense to the gamers out there lol). Wow I am bitter today haha must be the fact that I have another 8 hours of work to go. ciao ciao

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Originally posted by halo20 Even if you are a techno god and your using the plate to slow down or speed up the pitch, you are still using pitch control. Jonathan

well, but he wouldn't need a pitch control like there is on the technics...dj cheesy was talking about "THE pitch control", not about changing the pitch in other ways. I was trying to say that beatmatching IS possible without using that pitch slide...

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It's possible, I believe that Jeff Mills could, he da man.

Basically, your friend is a moron.

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Originally posted by havok118 Basically, your friend is a moron.

well said

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sure you can do it ........... for beatless AMBIENT
just joking of course...
but serioulsy i cant see anyone holding a mix for over 30vsecs without beatmatching

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it IS possible to beat match without touching the pitch control....
if two songs are in different bpm, they WILL ALWAYS have at least 6-9 kicks (almost) at the same time (in a row that is)... i have tried it, and it works... it wont be beatiful, and you have 2 be quik on the x fader (or whatever u use, its up 2 u), or else it gets fucked up....

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Beat some sense into the guy Cheesy. If anybody tries to convince you to not use the pitch fader they ARE crazy!

Perhaps there is just some miscommunication going on here and he really is using the pitch fader. Maybe he's thinking of manipulating record by hand to phase it AND using pitch fader to match speeds vs. exclusive use of the pitch fader for phase and speed(which is kind of tricky)??

It can be done......but i dont think its very wise.......besides when you let go of the vinyl and it speeds up or slows down a lot.......its gonna sound terrible

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