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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa
Posting unfinished tunes...

Right, this is an issue that's been bugging me for some time.

Why does the amount of people posting unfinished tracks keep increasing all the time? As this is a place to promote your stuff I can't really understand how an unfinished, unmastered and sometimes even completely unfocused track would promote anyone.

Posting clips of finished tracks is one thing since sometimes one has no choice (for contractual reasons etc.) but I myself have better things to do than waste time downloading stuff only to find out it's a 30-sec clip that lacks the bassline and the lead because "I'm still working on it".

If you want pointers put the clip in the Production Studio, not here.


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Sean Walsh
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Downtown Vancouver

I'd agree with you for tracks that are obviously not nearly complete enough to be bothered posting, but in the case where a track is more or less finished but say lacking a few bits and pieces, I think it's alright to post it in order to get advice from people as to how you might want to go about finishing the track. But yeah I guess if it's just "hey listen to these few sounds I threw together that I plan on building a track around" then I suppose it's wasting peoples' time.

I guess you're right when you say it should be posted in the Production Studio forum instead though, but in my experience people usually don't bother reviewing stuff in that forum.

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Bren-F
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Liverpool

I don't really see the problem.
Most of the time people will say in their post that it is only a clip. So if you can't be bothered listening to clips then don't download it
Although I do sorta see your point tho.
What really bugs me tho is when people post all or a sizable chunk of their productions and say 'here are my productions, please comment' (yeah like I'm gonna download all 20+ tunes )


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Registered: Apr 2002
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you got a good point there mystery....hence i never post any tracks in here...i don't want to waste people's time hehehe...

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Icone
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Registered: Nov 2001
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Yeah, I see your point there mate. I myself post unfinished tracks only very very rarely. Unless a certain label would want me to edit a track before release, that way every track I post here is 'unfinished', even the clips.

When someone posts up a clip of a track that's not done however, and keeps updarting and updating, posting and posting, I kinda lose interest. I don't like it when I already would have version 30 of the same track, only with different clap, bass or any other minor thing every time over.

Then again the question remains whether the 'Production Studio' forum can be bothered with all those unfinished tracks?


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dbl
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Gothenburg/sweden

quote:
Originally posted by Bren-F
What really bugs me tho is when people post all or a sizable chunk of their productions and say 'here are my productions, please comment' (yeah like I'm gonna download all 20+ tunes )


yeah.. hate that... mostly end up with me closing the thread and don't listen to any of them...

unless the thread get's some posts about a track that is good.. then i might download just that track among the 100 other's.. hehe

but i don't like unfinished track's either... but a clip of a track is fine.. especially since not everyone can post the full track becaus of possibility of getting it signed


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Fundamental
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Scotland

The worst thing is when a sample is posted, then maybe an 'unfinshed' version in a different thread, then the actual track in a different thread again.

By doing this, people are taking up thread space which should be showing someone else completed track. Hardly fair from what I can see...


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dj dimwit
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Registered: Feb 2002
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Why not make a special 'Snippet thread' for this? (If it doesnt exist already). On other forums this works really well, everyone should post his/her snippet in that thread.


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I dont see any problem as long as you can tell by the title of the thread that what your about to download is only a clip.


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Haak
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Registered: Jun 2001
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hey, i'd be posting threads like twice a year here if i was only gonna post finished tunes hehe


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Haak
hey, i'd be posting threads like twice a year here if i was only gonna post finished tunes hehe

Wouldn't that be twice as much as you do now?


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[mart]
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: England

I completely agree that this forum has become somewhat messy lately. Ideally it should be a place where amateur producers promote their finished, or at the very least near-finished tracks for the purpose of generating interest and feedback. It isn't such a big deal if an artist can only share a limited quality/length clip of a completed production, but he or she ought to be considerate and give the listener something to listen to. Otherwise, what's the point?

Back on track...regarding clips of unfinished material, if posting these in the Production Studio is not a satisfactory alternative to clogging up this forum, there should definitely be a stickied 'Snippets Thread' as previously suggested.

While I'm ranting, I'll bring up something that bugs me from time to time: thread titles. More specifically, ones along the lines of 'I'm great', 'check this out' and 'a new track' - if you want to promote yourself, put your alias and track name in the subject.


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