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NYCTrancefan
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BBC got back-slapped

From http://media.guardian.co.uk/huttoni...1133172,00.html

"Lord Hutton today delivered the worst possible verdict for the BBC, describing its editorial systems as "defective" and declaring that the board of governors led by chairman Gavyn Davies had failed in its duty to act as an independent regulator.

The judge lambasted BBC management for allowing the Radio 4 Today reporter Andrew Gilligan to broadcast "unfounded", "grave" and "false allegations of fact impugning the integrity of others".

In a wide-ranging and unequivocal attack on the corporation that also took in the board of governors and BBC journalism, Lord Hutton said editorial systems had failed, leaving the futures of director general Greg Dyke, chairman Gavyn Davies and head of news Richard Sambrook hanging precariously in the balance.

The BBC is making a statement within the hour and there have already been reports that Mr Davies is considering his position.

Hutton report: full coverage
Hutton delivers damning verdict on BBC

Owen Gibson and Ciar Byrne
Wednesday January 28, 2004


Hutton report: worst possible verdict for BBC

Lord Hutton today delivered the worst possible verdict for the BBC, describing its editorial systems as "defective" and declaring that the board of governors led by chairman Gavyn Davies had failed in its duty to act as an independent regulator.

The judge lambasted BBC management for allowing the Radio 4 Today reporter Andrew Gilligan to broadcast "unfounded", "grave" and "false allegations of fact impugning the integrity of others".

In a wide-ranging and unequivocal attack on the corporation that also took in the board of governors and BBC journalism, Lord Hutton said editorial systems had failed, leaving the futures of director general Greg Dyke, chairman Gavyn Davies and head of news Richard Sambrook hanging precariously in the balance.

The BBC is making a statement within the hour and there have already been reports that Mr Davies is considering his position.

Gilligan made 'unfounded' allegations


Lord Hutton criticised Gilligan for making "unfounded" and "grave" allegations that the government probably knew that the 45-minute claim was wrong or that it was not inserted in the first draft of the dossier because it only came from one source.

"The allegations that Mr Gilligan was intending to broadcast in respect of the government and the preparation of the dossier were very grave allegations in relation to a subject of great importance.

"And I consider that the editorial system which the BBC permitted was defective in that Mr Gilligan was allowed to broadcast his report at 6.07am without editors having seen a script of what he was going to say and having considered whether it should be approved," ruled Lord Hutton."

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and there is plenty more of pie in the face for the BBC in the full story. A virulently anti-American Western newsmedia that got their a** handed to them in the report from an individual who was described by both sides when the inquiry began as a man of strong character, integrity and impartial. Of course I am not surprised at the BBC's sorry behavior in this entire event, they have a way like a lot of British press of taking a story and running wild with it no matter how incredulous it may be. Nice to see that they will be put in their place, whether they want to or not changes are coming from the top on down. They should start by firing that fat, rotund, "investigative" and I use the term lightly, journalist Andrew Gilligan, what a disgrace he represents for running amock with a superficial story at best, pure veneer.


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oh no! Occrider what will you do now for a fair and balanced new source??


AHHHH the world is of end!


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soooooo, what news source do you use that is so much more balanced?

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soooooo, what news source do you use that is so much more balanced?


me? why I use debkafile of course!


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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
oh no! Occrider what will you do now for a fair and balanced new source??


AHHHH the world is of end!


//runs into a field with a gun... ahhh



I've actually been using cnn international/reuters as of late.

I've been pretty lazy as of late and bbc.co.uk prompts you to click on one more button to access the news ...


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BBC is in a meltdown today, as they should be. It's about time they got slammed. The case has now been made that they need an independent regulator - not just internal controls. I hope it happens, because it's becoming increasingly clear that the BBC is not some great big unbiased source of information.

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And what your problem with the BBC now?

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BBC is in a meltdown today, as they should be. It's about time they got slammed. The case has now been made that they need an independent regulator - not just internal controls. I hope it happens, because it's becoming increasingly clear that the BBC is not some great big unbiased source of information.


Hahaha weres your evidence?


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quote:
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I've actually been using cnn international/reuters as of late.

I've been pretty lazy as of late and bbc.co.uk prompts you to click on one more button to access the news ...


True that! My IE opens up to a news page. Washington Post to be exact. Just one less button to push.


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The Hutton Report was a disgrace. There is no doubt in my mind that both the British and American governments "sexed" up reports of Iraq's WMD program and I am sure a certain Mr. Kay will agree with me on this. Anyone who still thinks otherwise is naive beyond argument.

I back the BBC fully and I am glad that there is still an independent body that does not bow under political pressure. Sadly, it seems Blair and co. have already started to pollute the BBC to suit their own needs, what with a call for resignations and internal changes.

Biased is a relative term. There is no such thing as pure indifference. The BBC is the only mass media source that comes close to a satisfactory level of indifference. I realized this after living under the umbrella of CNN all my life.

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The Hutton Report was a disgrace. There is no doubt in my mind that both the British and American governments "sexed" up reports of Iraq's WMD program and I am sure a certain Mr. Kay will agree with me on this. Anyone who still thinks otherwise is naive beyond argument.


Hahaha weres your evidence?

(this is great just cut and paste the same thing)

Edit: By the way you do realise that the Hutton report had nothing to do with WDM it was all about the contributing factors or Dr Kellys death.


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Hahaha weres your evidence?

(this is great just cut and paste the same thing)


my evidence is the lack of it... a year after the invasion there are no weapons... a year after the invasion Mr. Kay has resigned... my evidence is his testimony... my evidence is the late Dr. Kelly..

my evidence would just be a replication of what has already been said...what you choose to ignore.

my evidence is not MY evidence...its the truth.

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