90% of trance songs follow certain rules, standards, and song structure in order to be properly used by DJs and be classified as trance.

Melodic/epic trance - bpm ~133-145
Two breaks, small break, large break
trippy background sound effects (for drug users to notice)
slam in parts usually with snare or drum rolls

Progressive - bpm ~125-135 One break
LOTS of trippy background sound effects
Tons of delays
multiple slam in parts with no snare or drum rolls

psytrance - bpm ~135-147
high pitched 909 kick sample
trippy background sound effects
sometimes one break if even that
1 beat, at 3/4 measure full song rests

What are the standard intro's and outtro's in beats/meausres?

What other things am I missing?

I've Noticed for the most part.

1-32 Beat/Few Sounds, mostly the beat/bass

32-64 start to bring in a few more elements..

64-? 72,80. Small Break

Bring it back a bit.
and then outtra pretty much same. AFter the Climax, and Removal of the Climax Sounds, outtro 32-64 Measures.. This is my assumption.


Woops, that is just for Epic Trance Styles, that I see, does it work for the other styles?

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen trippy background sound effects (for drug users to notice)

haha

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i don't see any meaning with this post really...

do whatever you want.... do it your own way... why do it like everyone else... and who says that a melodic/epic trance tune must have 2 breaks????

i know there isn't anything about that you MUST have it like this.. only 90% use it.....

but anyway.... no meaning with this post imo

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Daniel

Well, if you don't follow the standards then the song wont be trance, just like if you don't have a blue note then your song wont be jazz.

Of course you have to be creative within these standards. Look at James Holden's Balance 005 CD, completely different original sounding trance, yet it follows all the trance rules and conventions.

I'm just trying to point out what the standards are. Yeah, some songs ocasionally break them, but some songs also end up becoming techno, ambient, or down-tempo.

You also need a proper intro and outro otherwise most DJ's wont touch it.

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen You also need a proper intro and outro otherwise most DJ's wont touch it.

offcourse you need that...

but saying what you said would be like saying that just becaus you are using 1 break instead of 2, your track isn't trance


i just think it's a bad idea for a newbie to read this.
i think it's better to experiment and find out some thing's on your own and make your own style then think that.. well.. that's the first break.. and there i have my second brake... baah.. now i already have 2.. i can't add that third one... or something like that...

there actually is people like that.

but what you said about a proper intro and outro isn't the same thing at all... it's just a helpfull thing that is true.
you need a proper intro and outro for a dj to play it...

get me


EDIT: btw.. could you fix links for the progs you posted in the "READ HERE BEFORE YOU POST" thread.... would be much easier

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Daniel

ehhh, I never really take to notice in other songs, i try to stick to what i feel is right in the song im creating. but im so used to playing rock n roll (11 years now, and been producing for only 1 year) so i dont think like an electronica producer as much as i try to.

ill try to notice some of this in some songs.

THIS THREAD IS COCK

Some of the most epic trance songs ever made had only one break. You concentrate everything you have into building it up one time, have everything crash down, and then begin peeling off layers.

A lot of what you said just isn't true tbh.

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Originally posted by Damie Mckeown THIS THREAD IS COCK

Your face is cock, you slack jawed islander. Now if you have something constructive to say stop wasting my time.

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