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rock_roll18
Armin Addict To Da Core

Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Chicago
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Re: Just got home from Holden / G&D
| quote: | Originally posted by sti3
And my main reactions are:
Holden is as amazing as I thought before I heard him live.
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Gabriel and Dresden are incredibly overrated.
I like about half of G&D's productions and remixes. But as DJs, they blow. Who else is allowed to play 95% their own productions when they DJ? Nobody. Other DJs are required to actually create a set out of other people's tracks, with a flow and a mood. Not G&D. They get to use Abelton Live, picking and choosing loops and tracks of their own creation, yet they _still_ can't make a compelling, well-mixed set!
I can't think of any other hit-or-miss producer that gets the kind of accolades G&D do. I would like to come to any other conclusion, but I think it's because they're American, that a few good tracks have given them superstar status and let them get bookings (inc. an Essential Mix) the world over, that they mostly haven't deserved.
Holden at times transported me. Gabriel & Dresden, at best, made me dance for 2 minutes at a time, but at worst had me checking my watch, wondering what the hell they were thinking when they married X pop vocal with Y prog/trance beat. Maybe I just don't get it, but I prefer Perry O'Neil, James Zabiela, Luke Chable, and JAMES HOLDEN. These guys, IMO, "get it". Gabriel & Dresden just seem to get lucky sometimes.
Again, Holden was amazing. That last breakbeat 1991 rave tune? Brilliant, like the rest of his set.
Anyway...
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Totally agree with you on that....
Holden was quite amazing and though im not the greatest fan of progressive house ..I enjoyed it a lot.
G&D on the other hand...had the weirdest tracklist ... and some songs which were "weird"?
Props up to holden
Last edited by rock_roll18 on Feb-29-2004 at 12:33
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Feb-29-2004 12:28
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dyre
Senior tranceaddict

Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Madison, WI
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Feb-29-2004 23:00
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DJMaytag
Supreme Pizzaaddict

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: back in Madison, WI... again!
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Mar-01-2004 08:03
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fathomless1
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Mar 2002
Location: NATI-TA #1
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| quote: | | But as DJs, they blow. Who else is allowed to play 95% their own productions when they DJ? Nobody. |
I'm sorry but I had to comment on this. This is the dumbest comment I have ever heard (sorry). If I went to see lets say Metallica, I would not bitch because they played too many of their songs and not enough of other peoples. G&D are big producers and remixers, they DJ to showcase their works. Most of these songs they played, they have produced in the last 2 years, they have made enough music for a few cd's (and there are none out). So, when I go to see G&D I expect to hear their music, and they did not disappoint. Holden does not produce 'as much' and he did play the majority of songs that he has produced recently. They are focused on producing and when I listened, I did not try and listen for minor mixing mistakes, I just had a great time at their 'concert'.
If you have ever heard a G&D set in the last 2 years, you would know that they play mostly their material. So, to see them live and criticize them for doing exactly this, is just stupid. You knew that they did this before you even went. Not trying to start a flame war, just addressing the ignorance of the comment made at the begining of the thread.
those are my .02 cents
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Mar-01-2004 22:23
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