what do you think of this, got it from tranceGate:

Trancerules has been e-mailed by a lawyer-office of DanceValley B.V. (inc.) They are saying we have to stop publishing their livesets and now they wanna give us a huge fine. The emails are real and more than serious.
We immediately quit our website (dont know if its temporary, maybe we come back bigger than ever, or with more legal stuff).

I hope our visitors will understand our position and pray that its just a warning of DanceValley B.V.

Grz
Webmasters trance-rules.com


could be me, but it isn't illegal to spread livesets........is it???

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i think swamper knows this one........

grtz,
TNG

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Originally posted by Blik could be me, but it isn't illegal to spread livesets........is it???

It is. We had a thread about this recently.

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Yup, the spreading and shareing of live sets is just as illegal as shareing other MP3's
The majority of them are covered by artist and label copyrights just as every other track is, some of the tracks played wont be covered as they will be Promo's but the majority will be.
Copyrights are paid for at live gigs by the club or DJ spinning them, and this is covered by ticket sales.
in some cases of course the record companies rely on DJ's spinning their stuff to promote tracks, but they still own the copyright and its still illegal for them to be copied and spread as MP3.
because there is so little control over MP3, the record companies hate them. all they see is MP3 is a way of pirateing their music and they dont see the bigger picture that MP3 is a massive way of promoting music.
A lot of MP3's generate sales,but piracy has and always will be a problem, just that MP3 is the most prolific at the minute so it will be the biggest target.
before CD, ppl used to copy vinyl to tape and then sell on / distribute those tapes.
then of course with CD and the ability to burn to CDr the problem got worse but harder to police, now with MP3 and the internet they can police it to a certain extent by checking what websites are hosting MP3.
they can use legal ways of closing these websites.
They will never kill off MP3 cos its too big, but they see it as making our lives harder by stopping known sites hosting MP3.
the closure of Napster was a huge victory for the record companies.
Think about this, since napster closed or had major filters how many ppl cant get tracks cos they dont know how to use FTP or other file sharing programs, that stopped a lot of MP3's spreading over the net.
All that will happen is the sharing of MP3 will go further underground making them less available to the masses but those that have some intelligence and know how to use the Net will always be able to get the Mp3's.

**steps off soap box now **

Peace

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I think that's really stupid, they can't make money with the livesets so why is that also illegal.............

fuck them

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Livesets ARE legal. They're covered by each countries copyright laws that allow VCR's to be legal! After all, whether you record Friends to a videotape, Tiesto to an audiotape, or Johan Gielen to an mp3, its all home recording. In the US, its covered by the tort law US vs Sony in 1984 and the Personal recording act of 1992. I haven't had the time to research the other countries.

This is why I get livesets and buy CDs. I support the DJs AND the record companies, and use the laws as stated.

Its purely legal. As legal a VCR is legal. This is not bending the laws like mp3s ripped from production CDs originally were. If you are to make livesets illegal, then all vcrs are just as illegal, period.

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Beroshima.
well u sort answered that point there , Home recording for your own use ( OWN use ) is vastly different to recording at home and then distributing the same material,
if u taped friends then procedded to copy it to a 100 tapes and distributed it then thats VERY illegal
the same applies to MP3's of a live set.
u may be able to record it at home but NOT distribute it over the net as MP3 to loads of different ppl.


Blik. They do make money from Livesets, it comes from ticket sales mainly, that goes to pay for the venue, the DJ and any copyright costs that occur, a lot of tracks are played purely for promotion purposes and copyright is void in some cases for the live set only.
it does not cover the live set being ripped and distributed over the internet or by any other means.


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1. So, that means it is illegal for me to let my buddy borrow my 'friends' videotape... hmmm...

2. "if u taped friends then procedded to copy it to a 100 tapes and distributed it then thats VERY illegal" - Hmmm, that's wrong! There is a difference, IMO, in recording unapproved bootlegs and things like the Essential Mix, something that is agreed by choice with the DJ and record label to be broadcasted over airwaves... Totally different things, totally different laws...

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Wicked Neo is right. Devices such as video recorders are for personal use only. Not only is it illegal for you to give your friend a copy of a friends episode, it's also illegal to show it in your home to more than eight people at a time.

If 'Friends' was recorded at a school, only eight school children at a time would be legally allowed to watch the recording.
Some schools have been found out when showing films to classes at the end of term for example and fined for doing so!