2004 has started off a bad. I dont see why
people have to emulate the united states in
terms of guns and violence. However bad it
may be in toronto, people dont seem to realize
that even people living in poverty here, are
better off than people living in poverty in
the states. For instance buffalo's ghetto
is probably ten times worse than torontos.
So the question is why are people so dumb
in that they need guns.

because there are alot of people who deserve to get shot?

-jebac

Media attention + A few untimely incidents = public hysteria

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Originally posted by Time2Burn Media attention + A few untimely incidents = public hysteria

Exactly.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn Media attention + A few untimely incidents = public hysteria

That doesn't make me feel better that two people got shot up while waiting at a traffic light in rush hour.

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Originally posted by Skipper That doesn't make me feel better that two people got shot up while waiting at a traffic light in rush hour.

It's unfortunate, but considering the crime rate has been steadily declining since 1990 (minus 1999-2000), all this media attention and public attention is really unnecessary

And how often do people get shot at a traffic light during rush hour? Obviously this isn't a normal occurence, but it did happen. Thats life though. Anything can happen at anytime. Worrying about it isn't gonna make it any better.

Last edited by infinity HiGH on Mar-07-2004 at 01:07

it's all about the scarborough massives !!!

I'm not exactly trying to make you feel better.. just stating facts. These things (shootings) happen all the time and its only when the media makes a big deal of when people take notice. Not necessarily a bad thing but there should be more public outcry about guns in general. Bottom line they should be banned.

But comments like "why are the so many shootings in TO?" bother me cause it is buying into hysteria. Go south of the border see how many gunshops there are... Canada isn't even close. Thank god.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH It's unfortunate, but considering the crime rate has been steadily declining since 1990 (minus 1999-2000), all this media attention and public attention is really unnecessary

Crime, or violent crime?
Gun crime?
Homicides?

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Originally posted by Skipper Crime, or violent crime? Gun crime? Homicides?

Violent crime and homicides. Gun crimes have been on the rise, yes, but it's not such a boom that we should be barricading our doors and going outside only when it's absolutely necessary.

Last edited by infinity HiGH on Mar-07-2004 at 01:15

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Violent crime and homicides. Gun crimes have been on the rise, yes, but it's not such a boom that we should be barricading our doors and going outside only when it's absolutely necessary.

I didn't suggest that we should do that.
However, gun crimes on the rise at all is something to worry about. Media = public attention = pressure on politicians. Can you say that's a bad thing?

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Originally posted by Skipper I didn't suggest that we should do that. However, gun crimes on the rise at all is something to worry about. Media = public attention = pressure on politicians. Can you say that's a bad thing?

I'm not saying you said so yourself, but often while on the subway I overhear people saying things like "whats this world coming to" "nowadays i'm afraid to let my son/daughter to go outside at night because of all the crimes".

Sure, it's ok to worry, but many people are under the impression that Toronto is turning into Brooklyn or something, when it's simply not true. Toronto, and Canada, are one of the safest places in the world, and have been for some time.

As for pressure on politicians; well you're right. Pressure is always good. But I'd rather see some pressure on them related to issues that need attention, not something thats on a steady decline.

Do something about the damn highway traffic problems, for example. Or about the freakin pot-holes on the 401 and every single street in the city. Or take care of the insurance companies.