The following are true facts and verified statistics:
(checked from the Nobel price web site : http://www.almaz.com/nobel/)

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or
20% of the world population.
They received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1957 - Albert Camus
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat <----------- I think its under suspention

Physics/Chemistry:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewail

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Murad


The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 or about
0.02% of the world population.

They received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Mars! hall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis

Physics/Chemistry:
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1925 - James Franck
1943 - Gustav Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1995 - Martin Perl
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Elias James Corey
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1999 - Ahmed Zewail
2000 - Alan J. Heeger


The Jews are not demonstrating with their dead on the streets, yelling and chanting and asking for revenge, the Jews are not promoting brain washing of children in military trainingn "summer" camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims.

The Jews don't high-jack planes, nor kill athletes at the
Olympics. The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling
for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

The Jews don't have the economical strength of the Petroleum, nor
the possibilities to force the world's media to see "their side"
of the question.

Perhaps if the world's Muslims could invest more in normal
education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems, we
could all live in a better world.

Knowledge is power - It’s evident to me that Jews have better things to do with their time. Perhaps something that might actually benefit this fucked up world we live in that just keeps on trying to kill the very people who have done more than we could imagine for the development of this world and the advancement of mankind.

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hey fucktard, albert Camus is French and had no ideas that jews had Ahmed as first names.

1999 - Ahmed Zewail



1973 - Henry Kissinger <--- War criminal
1978 - Menachem Begin <--- War criminal


There's nothing new in what you are stating, most of the islamic population is poor... hence the lack of education.

How many of the jews you named come from Israel? and how many others come from western countries? or even better, how many come from poor countries?

stfu with your propaganda and go tell your mother that your wrote this on the net so she spanks you good!

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old, very old.

Anyway, it's sad seeing that the Arab world was leading in all of those areas up until 5 centuries ago.

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quote:

Originally posted by malek stfu with your propaganda and go tell your mother that your wrote this on the net so she spanks you good!

Its not propaganda.

In a way I have to agree with Ilan here.
Arab society has a real problem, it is backwords today. This is the truth like it or not.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. I wouldn't go pull the wool over my eyes if I were you. How about you guys try to solve this problem first? Admit its there, if you don't beleive its there, you won't be able to do something about it.

I'm pretty sure all the other problems in the middle east will follow in step afterwords.

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How many of the jews you named come from Israel? and how many others come from western countries? or even better, how many come from poor countries?

There are more nobel prize winners from Israel than the whole Arab world. And you should remember the Arab world is one of the richest regions of the entire globe, you guys are sitting on a gold mine. Israel is not.


oh ... and Ilan, this list is incomplete. There was an Israel who won a nobel prize for economics last year if I am not mistaken.

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Victimizing is easier.

I don't know why you bother Yoepus - this thread isn't leading to anything except a steaming nugget of rhetoric.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Victimizing is easier. I don't know why you bother Yoepus - this thread isn't leading to anything except a steaming nugget of rhetoric.

You're right.

But in its essence Ilan's post addresses the very core of whats wrong with the middle east today.

It just angered me that people start attacking Ilan instead of addressing the issue. Admittedly he could have worded it smoother and made it easier to digest, but I guess his style is more 'provacitive' what can I do


See Ilan just said "dumb Arabs". Which is true although offensive. I would have put it more like, "Arabs need to be higher educated"

Regardless it is the same issue, Arabs are lacking in educaiton and this I believe is the primary reason for all the problems radiating out of that area.

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This is a funny thread

Ilan why dont you just say

"arabs are evil, jews are good"

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There is nothing wrong with Jews and I am actualy more fond of Judaism than Christianity, but there are some bad apples especially in the IDF. Come on bull dozing Rachel Corrie even though her head was above the blade and was wearing bright fluorescent gear yet the IDF says it was due to concrete falling down on her! How about the journalist turned activist, James Miller, who also was wearing the bright fluorescent gear got head-shotted from an IDF sniper in daylight... a head shot! IDF excuse was that the previous night they had missles fired at their watch towers... OKAY WHY DIDNT THEY SHOOT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY SHOT THE MISSLES THAT NIGHT AND NOT SOME INNOCENT BY STANDARD THE NEXT MORNING, IM SURE WITH ALL THE MONEY ISRAEL IS MAKING FROM THEIR INDUSTRIES AND US SUPPORT THEY CAN AFFORD NIGHT VISION EQUIPMENT?!?! Not even United Nation schools in Palestine are safe with all the random shots coming from IDF's watch towers and their super protective tear gas farting Tanks/APCs.

Hey heres a funny quote from The Believer: "Israelis are not real Jews. Real Jews are wanderers, Israelis are not real Jews because they own the land and are willing to defend it." Wasn't there a post a while back about how Israelis don't take Jewish holidays seriously as Jews who are not living in Israel?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King This is a funny thread Ilan why dont you just say "arabs are evil, jews are good"

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Originally posted by Yoepus There are more nobel prize winners from Israel than the whole Arab world. And you should remember the Arab world is one of the richest regions of the entire globe, you guys are sitting on a gold mine. Israel is not.

Saudi royal family, dictators, kings != Arab world.

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Originally posted by rizen Saudi royal family, dictators, kings != Arab world.

Saudia Arabia has just some five years over Israel. It was their choice to form a dictatorship, they could have just as easily been as democratic as Israel chose to be. Almost all the Arab countries aren't much older than Israel. And all had new governments around the same era as Israel's establishment.

They just chose different paths. Its about time Arabs get on the right one.

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