i know that this probably sounds like i'm just a jackass, but seriously...i knew this kid who came out of the closet and afterwords he started to talk differently...what the hell is that about? i can see perhaps maybe wanting to differenciate yourself from everyone else, but why does it affect the way you pitch your voice?

i know exactly what you mean. i think its just the same as knowing and feeling that you need the love of a man.. your voice just follows suit [no pun intended]

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i know that this probably sounds like i'm just a jackass, but seriously...i knew this kid who came out of the closet and afterwords he started to talk differently...what the hell is that about? i can see perhaps maybe wanting to differenciate yourself from everyone else, but why does it affect the way you pitch your voice?

Not sure personally, but I would speculate it has to do with something about allowing the femininity side to come out more freely (perhaps too freely in some instances). There was an associate at work that finally admitted he was gay, and within a few days his dialect changed in a similar manner you described.

Conversely, I work with other gay guys who've never developed the "gay lisp". There is a tendency in all homosexual relationships for one partner to assume a more feminine role, while the other assumes the masculine role. Perhaps the lisp is more indicative of the feminine role? Who knows.

Maybe a pubmed search might reveal any research on the matter, though I think it might be somewhat difficult to find.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Not sure personally, but I would speculate it has to do with something about allowing the femininity side to come out more freely (perhaps too freely in some instances). There was an associate at work that finally admitted he was gay, and within a few days his dialect changed in a similar manner you described. Conversely, I work with other gay guys who've never developed the "gay lisp". There is a tendency in all homosexual relationships for one partner to assume a more feminine role, while the other assumes the masculine role. Perhaps the lisp is more indicative of the feminine role? Who knows. Maybe a pubmed search might reveal any research on the matter, though I think it might be somewhat difficult to find.

see yeah...i know lots of gay guys that don't have that accent or whatever...i just think that its retarded as in all situations when someone tries to become something they aren't....its just so fake..

i live around a bunhc of gay people in downtown.. but i dont know an of them

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Originally posted by Floorfiller see yeah...i know lots of gay guys that don't have that accent or whatever...i just think that its retarded as in all situations when someone tries to become something they aren't....its just so fake..

I know several gay males - most of them I would never guess it unless they or somebody else had told me. Maybe some intentionally display it more than others?

I really don't know.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller when you're gay...do you intentionally alter your voice to give yourself that stereotypical "gay" sound? i hope that doesn't come off too bad because i'm actually being serious. hopefully someone will know what i'm talking about

I myself am gay but have no lisp. I had a minor speech problem in my childhood, but worked on it; and I've always spoken rather quietly and tend to mumble at times...also something I've gotten better about. But I haven't got a lisp or anything, and no speech patterns characteristic of what you mention.

But just as MisterOpus mentioned, a lot of guys develop such speech patterns only after coming out. They might be doing it intentionally, but one might also argue that they had simply repressed a natural desire to speak that way until they came out...

To be honest it's a major turn off to me personally, seeing a guy act like that.

yeh i know a couple of gay guys and i noticed their accents changed the more they hang around with other gay guys, and developed a more feminine side to their voices.

For example if anyone who moves to another country, from say Scotland to England .. over time they would pick up that particular accent from that country/city they live in depending on the exposure to the language used. Perhaps the same applies with the feminine accent that some gay guys have.

Dont quote me thought its only a guess.

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Originally posted by brian I myself am gay but have no lisp. I had a minor speech problem in my childhood, but worked on it; and I've always spoken rather quietly and tend to mumble at times...also something I've gotten better about. But I haven't got a lisp or anything, and no speech patterns characteristic of what you mention. But just as MisterOpus mentioned, a lot of guys develop such speech patterns only after coming out. They might be doing it intentionally, but one might also argue that they had simply repressed a natural desire to speak that way until they came out... To be honest it's a major turn off to me personally, seeing a guy act like that.

adda boy...that's what i wanted to hear hehehe...

anyway, thanks to all of your imputs...i was hoping people wouldn't turn this into a flame war and you guys didn't

continue discussion if necessary...