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DaveSZ
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Registered: Jan 2003
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Read This! Bio: How Kerry wins

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2...erry/index.html


This is such a great article, and clearly I was wrong about the Democrats nominating the wrong person.

Truth be told, I don't hate George Bush. I actually think he tries to do what he thinks is right...

It should be a great campaign.


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WhoaNellie1487
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John Kerry's former media advisor recalls how the Democrat has already faced every smear the Bush campaign will try against him -- and has prevailed.


This part makes me laugh. How he has faced every smear?...

Ok,This is what I find amazing.

The democrats,are the ones who lied and said Bush was AWOL. Which wasn't true, and if you want to fight me on that one. Go ahead and try,because you can't be AWOL and still get medical benefits,and you can't get honorary discharge, To add there were many people who said he was there with them.

Now, they are trying to blame Bush for 9/11. Which I find completely wrong.

Then,I was reading this article saying that a certain group (of liberal people) was trying to blame Bush for people being fat?
(Yep,Read it in the Limbaugh letter.)

Those are some of the things the democratic platform is trying to accuse Bush of. None are true.

What I find amazing is how everyone says that Kerry is this great big war hero.

Yes,He faught in the war, But then he came back and protested against it! That's not being a war hero. Further more, if you're going to bring up all the medals and stuff he won. The longer you stay in the military,The more medals you get.That's just how it is.

Anyway, I can't read the whole article. You can only see the top half.(I don't think it's even half.)


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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487


Yes,He faught in the war, But then he came back and protested against it! That's not being a war hero. Further more, if you're going to bring up all the medals and stuff he won. The longer you stay in the military,The more medals you get.That's just how it is.


if i had fought in vietnam, i would have protested it too.

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WhoaNellie1487
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if i had fought in vietnam, i would have protested it too.


I'm not saying he didn't have the right to,But what I'm saying is that by him doing that,That does not make him a war hero.


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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
I'm not saying he didn't have the right to,But what I'm saying is that by him doing that,That does not make him a war hero.


i never understood why war heros should make good politicians. i dont think war is good and we shouldnt promote it.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
What I find amazing is how everyone says that Kerry is this great big war hero.

Yes,He faught in the war, But then he came back and protested against it! That's not being a war hero. Further more, if you're going to bring up all the medals and stuff he won. The longer you stay in the military,The more medals you get.That's just how it is.

Anyway, I can't read the whole article. You can only see the top half.(I don't think it's even half.)


What the???? How does that make him any less of a war hero? You are a war hero according to your acts on the battlefield. The fact that he protested the war after he was discharched doesn't diminish his meritous acts. The mere suggestion that a person's "hero" status is dependant upon having political beliefs that mirror the government is ludicrous at best. That's like saying that a wehrmacht soldier who saved the lives of his men is any less of a war hero because he protested his country's aggression against others .

As for your statement insinuating that Kerry got his medals simply because of a "longer stay" in the military, I suggest you read some literature on what he did to earn those medals:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

Furthermore I'm certain that plenty of receipients of the congressional medal of honor would take offense to the lack of recognition and respect of their accomplishments.


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WhoaNellie1487
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And so how many years did you serve in the military?

My father served just under 23. He knows better about the military,Than you.


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WhoaNellie1487
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Originally posted by butterfly
i never understood why war heros should make good politicians. i dont think war is good and we shouldnt promote it.


Well,War isn't fun. But, sometimes it's nessecary. Without it, America would have never been America.
(Revolutionary War.)


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Ok so what are his medals then? Quantity and type please.


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Ok so what are his medals then? Quantity and type please.


Eh, Nessa edited her post. I was going to comment on how she posted numerous points and *almost* quoted sources. Apparently that wasnt enough, and I didnt want to beat a dead horse.

Since, its another 2 line Nellie post, and makes almost no sense. From what I understand you have to go to war, and answer to her father - again, from what I understand|


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Originally posted by biznology
Eh, Nessa edited her post. I was going to comment on how she posted numerous points and *almost* quoted sources. Apparently that wasnt enough, and I didnt want to beat a dead horse.

Since, its another 2 line Nellie post, and makes almost no sense. From what I understand you have to go to war, and answer to her father - again, from what I understand|


Well it's quite simple really ... according to her argument, if her father has 23+ years of military service, then I'm expecting him to have quite a number of medals that surpasses Kerry's acheivements in 4 years ... perhaps a distinguished service cross or a silver star, at the very least a crapload of bronze stars. If her father doesn't have all these medals then her argument is crap. Of course if he DOES have all these medals, then they're nothing to be proud of since he simply accumulated through spending so much time in the service doing nothing ... according to her argument of course. I'm satisfied with either scenario actually


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DaveSZ
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I'll be sure and check with Nellie's father before I post again.




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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487


Anyway, I can't read the whole article. You can only see the top half.(I don't think it's even half.)



There's a link at the bottom for pages 2,3,etc.


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