hmm.. now where did I leave that ten foot pole...





btw the french are inferior there is no doubt in my mind

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I think it's natural for the human mind to categorize things. It's certainly natural for the human mind to pick out differences among things. Augmented by society and culture, you attach beliefs and stigmas to these differences.

I would say that it's unnatural for a human mind to be completely devoid of racial thought. But that doesn't make you a racist.

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I would say yes. Simply because although we might not cognitively be "racist" (although I think racist is the incorrect term to use), I believe that many of us are instinctually prejudiced to form preconceived notions (or rather preconceived wariness/caution) when it comes to groups of people we are not familiar with.

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I don't really believe in "race". There is no genetic evidence of such a trait, nor is there any other objective standard by which to classify individuals into "races." Hence, racial categorizations are devoid of meaning. If you realize this, it should be easy to (and perhaps difficult not to) recognize "racist" propositions as non sequitur.

I don't think there is anything wrong with you, and the phenomenon you describe is likely quite prevalent. Since you recognize the fallacy in these thoughts, I don't see how it would disqualify you from being a humanist.

The last question is a bit more interesting:

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-Does one ever have a chance of shaking of influeces that might have affected him since his infant stages, printing in his mind values he would later learn to despise?

The short answer: yes. Nietzsche was raised by fanatically Lutheran parents but went on to be one of the most notorious atheists in history. It's obviously difficult, but the hardest step is actually realizing how misguided those values are.

I'm not even convinced you have a problem of that nature, however. The mere act of considering some proposition does not mean you are predisposed to believe that that proposition is true. I consider race-based propositions all the time, but it never even occurs to me that they could be true because I know the underlying concept is absurd. It seems rather like being asdfist, whereby you are prejudiced against people with certain asdf.

As a result, I wouldn't say that racism exists in all of us because I don't believe I possess it myself. Personally, before I start feeling prejudiced against someone I need a reason. Race cannot be a reason, since I have no objective way to ascertain their race if in fact such a thing did exist.

Biologically I believe we are in fact imprinted with some degree of instinctual "racism." I don't believe it to be on a conscious level of hating other "races," but on a subconscious level of being cautious of those that are different. Throughout nature there is a tendency at every level, from immune system reaction to a bear defending her cubs, to either attack or be extremely weary of what we do not consider "self." I believe that his carries over to humans in the form of an almost intrinsic "uneasiness" by even the most racially aware individuals around those that do not share a set of common physical traits and social identities.

I do however think that our society continues to emphasize our differences on a "racial" level. From affirmative action to hate crime laws, for better or worse, we continue to play upon our phenotypical differences.

If you want to find a perfect example of the "natural" segregation that we find ourselves performing, look at a college campus. Even though a college community I believe has the best hope of a completely homogeneous mixture of the races, I have never found this to be the case. Although you will find this mixture on a more academic level, outside the classroom, blacks associate with blacks, Asians with Asians, whites with whites, etc. Although as I said before, our culture and society does play a part in this segregation, I also believe it to be a function of our biology. We are more comfortable around people that are the most closely related to "self."

The human being is so varied in innumerable categories that we tend to identify with what is obviously more familiar to us based on our experiences from the day we were born.

I'm originally from South America but would be identified today as African-American and yet have a different experience and background than what many blacks in the U.S. can identify with. Hence I'm into trance, strong interest in different cultures and languages along with travel, etc.

I am the ultimate humanist as best as is possible. I try to respect others no matter how different and if they are cool then we can chill, if not oh well. I myself still tend to prejudge people such as when I see German rappers and yet I am not a fan of most hip-hop today. See we all tend to be judgemental, it's only human the key is to be able to move pass that.

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I'd agree with the most and say that there is some inherent racism in all of us. We always tend to generalize things, it makes life easier because it's practically impossible to examine every single item in existance as a stand-alone entitiy. For example, if someone throws a knife at you, you'll instinctively generalize it's a harmful steel sharp knife and duck, although in reality it may be a plastic imitation. Same goes for people, we all generalize that nazis are evil, slovenians are assholes and that kind of stuff, even if it is not always true.

Btw, nice to see you back.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Btw, nice to see you back.

Thanks Someone must've switched the "Standby" button on the back of my head again

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I have that problem with blacks although I'm married to an Asian.
Go figure....


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I think almost everyone has been racist in at least one moment of their life. Some then learn to be tolerant yet some do not...

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