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DaveSZ
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Registered: Jan 2003
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Behold, my arse. Italians may make 'small doses' of torture legal

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=788

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Saturday 24th April 2004 :
Italians may make 'small doses' of torture legal
Torture may be acceptable provided it is administered in small doses, says a bill under discussion in the Italian parliament that has outraged human rights organisations.

The Chamber of Deputies yesterday passed an amendment, tabled by the far-right Northern League, to the bill which opposition MPs denounced as a green light to "limited" torture but which government supporters said was essential for police.

The amendment says violence and threats must be used repeatedly to qualify as torture. The League said the previous wording had been influenced by police violence at the G8 summit in Genoa three years ago.

"We ... have to make it clear that we don't support those who want to criminalise the police, making their job practically impossible," said Carolina Lussana, the League MP who drafted the amendment.

Marco Bertotto, the chairman ofAmnesty International in Italy, said the law did not respect the terms of a United Nations convention on torture which was ratified by Italy in 1988.




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Re: Italians may make 'small doses' of torture legal

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http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=788




Silvio and W, taking us forward to the 13th century!



where else but the country that invented the mafia


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Does "small doses" mean they can only use small power tools?




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nic01445
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PWND! In all seriousness...doesn't this violate the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights?

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Berlusconi is the only leader in the western world that is worse than bush

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well, those who are tortured get what they deserve. you should know, that if you break the law, you will be punished. sorry to those who are planning on breaking the law, but of course they are going to lobby for a little slap-on-the-wrist one night in jail..

torture should be used for specific crimes, like murder, robbery, kidnap, etc. on that level. punishment fits the crime..


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ChavezHype
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto

whoa... shouldn't and wouldn't that mean that Berlusconi should get some "slight" interrogation for his part in the Mediaset accounting fraud and even allegations to Sicilian mafia links?
Oh right... he passed a law protecting himself from any sort of conviction...
What a joker

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well, those who are tortured get what they deserve. you should know, that if you break the law, you will be punished. sorry to those who are planning on breaking the law, but of course they are going to lobby for a little slap-on-the-wrist one night in jail..

torture should be used for specific crimes, like murder, robbery, kidnap, etc. on that level. punishment fits the crime..
Wtf is this, I dont think that any crime should cause the goverment to lower itself to the levels of the crimanals themselves and thats exactly what this would be doing. I live in a country where both the police and the gangs will torture you and beleive me it aint good shit, you allready have it in jails were the inmates themselves will kill child molesters rapests ext. Do we need to go to the point where the goverment that is suposed to be a rational and moral entity is deminished to this level


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They should ask the Amerikkkan army for advice, if they are not available the Brits would be happy to comply


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They should ask the Amerikkkan army for advice, if they are not available the Brits would be happy to comply


Or they could ask the canadian army as well ... they're quite proficient at it too .

Or do we have selective memory when it comes to these sort of things?


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Or they could ask the canadian army as well ... they're quite proficient at it too .

Or do we have selective memory when it comes to these sort of things?


Yes, selective memory.

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Or they could ask the canadian army as well ... they're quite proficient at it too .

Or do we have selective memory when it comes to these sort of things?


You could ask the Canadian army, by why not ask the best of the best?


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