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UnBracKo
Electronic Odyssey



Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Barcelona
2 problems when I spin

Hi folks!! In my recent experience spinning I found two problems I can't solve by myself so I need your help.

- 1 st problem:
Well I've been spinning for a month and a half + or -, and of course I've could beatmatch some records but most of the times I can beatmatch the two tracks only 10 seconds and then they start to gallop.

Is this a phase of your Dj'ing learning or what? What I have to do?


- 2nd problem:
The other problem I have is that when I move the pitch fader of one deck for beatmatch with the track of the other deck then I have to readjust the pitch to 0, right??. But how?? Can I move the pitch to 0 while is playing out the track?? This is a bit unprofesional for me, isn't it? How do you do this??


Well I wait your answers, Thanx in advance!


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa
Re: 2 problems when I spin

quote:
Originally posted by UnBracKo
Hi folks!! In my new experience spinning I found two problems I can't solve by myself so I need your help.

- 1 st problem:
Well I've been spinning for a month and a half + or -, and of course I've could beatmatch some records but most of the times I can beatmatch the two tracks only 10 seconds and then they start to gallop.

Is this a phase of your Dj'ing learning or what? What I have to do?

Yep. You can fix this by something called "practice"

quote:
Originally posted by UnBracKo
- 2nd problem:
The other problem I have is that when I move the pitch fader of one deck for beatmatch with the track of the other deck then I have to readjust the pitch to 0, right??. But how?? Can I move the pitch to 0 while is playing out the track?? This is a bit unprofesional for me, isn't it? How do you do this??

Ehm... I'm not sure I understand you here... readjust the pitch to 0? Why?


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trancintaiwan
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: from New Jersey, in NEW YORK CITY
Re: 2 problems when I spin

quote:
Originally posted by UnBracKo
Hi folks!! In my new experience spinning I found two problems I can't solve by myself so I need your help.

- 1 st problem:
Well I've been spinning for a month and a half + or -, and of course I've could beatmatch some records but most of the times I can beatmatch the two tracks only 10 seconds and then they start to gallop.

Is this a phase of your Dj'ing learning or what? What I have to do?


- 2nd problem:
The other problem I have is that when I move the pitch fader of one deck for beatmatch with the track of the other deck then I have to readjust the pitch to 0, right??. But how?? Can I move the pitch to 0 while is playing out the track?? This is a bit unprofesional for me, isn't it? How do you do this??


Well I wait your answers, Thanx in advance!


????????? readjust the pitch to 0? ok.... forget everything you were just doing. basically... there are two ways to beatmatch that most people use. some people touch the record and platter, some people only use the pitch control, (oh wait... 3) and some people do a combination of both. if you want to use strictly just the pitch fader (which i mostly do except for certain cases), you have to realize that you are moving the pitch slider "off" the correct position in order to get it on beat. basically you are either moving it faster or slower than the actual speed of the other record for the beats to line up. so you basically just have to adjust accordingly backwards toward the direction you moved it from in order for them to stay beatmatched. now what some other people do is push the record (faster) or touch the platter to slow it down and match up the beats, and then afterwards they use the pitch adjust to try and match the speeds. basically my advice is to keep practicing and eventually in a nother month or more.. you'll start getting the hang of it.

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Quantized
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Scotland
Re: 2 problems when I spin

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Originally posted by UnBracKo
beatmatch the two tracks only 10 seconds and then they start to gallop.


yup, i used to do this a lot as well...its just part of learning - keep practicing and try to make smaller adjustments on your pitch slider...the tinyiest touch can make a hella big difference (well on my crappy decks anyway)

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The other problem I have is that when I move the pitch fader of one deck for beatmatch with the track of the other deck then I have to readjust the pitch to 0, right??. But how?? Can I move the pitch to 0 while is playing out the track?? This is a bit unprofesional for me, isn't it? How do you do this??


i was wondering about this as well...if its only a small bit away from 0, then i just leave it there. but if its at +-2/3 then i usually put it back to 0 very slowly during the breakdown. dunno if thats what other people do though.

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UnBracKo
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Barcelona

Ok first problem is solved: PRACTICE heh

But in the second part, I dunno if I explained correctly. I meant I use the pitch for match the two records in the same speed. And for line up the two tracks I push the center of the vinyl or I touch the platter of the deck to slow one track and line up the beats with the other.
But my question was if I have one track with 0 % in the pitch and the other in 2 %, then I take out the 0 % vynil and I put another one. So what I have to do with the 2 % track which is playing out??


p.d. I think [UK]Trancedewdİ realized what I was asking. I do the same as he but I dunno if it's the best way.


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Ygrene
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Totergefuttert

quote:
Originally posted by UnBracKo
But my question was if I have one track with 0 % in the pitch and the other in 2 %, then I take out the 0 % vynil and I put another one. So what I have to do with the 2 % track which is playing out??


For me, it depends on how the track sounds at that pitch and what track I'm playing next. If I'm playing at 2% now and it sounds ok, I'll leave it. But if I know I'm going to have to adjust my next track to 4% to match then Ill slow down a bit. My choice is to make minor adjustments on both tracks rather than make a major adjustment on one track.


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`pr0digy
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Philadelphia

So your saying you have Track 1 playing live with say a +2 pitch. You leave the live track alone and beatmatch the incoming (Track 2) track to the live one. No need to set Track 1 back to 0 pitch...


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trancintaiwan
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: from New Jersey, in NEW YORK CITY

yea... there's no need to move back to the original tempo of the vinyl.

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D Dubya
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Registered: Mar 2004
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Don't worry about getting it back to 0 after you finish a transition. With a +/- 8% pitch slide almost all songs will sound okay in any pitch position.


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Spuds6s
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the only reason i would consider putting it back to 0 pitch is if the song just sounds ridiculous at a higher or lower pitch (above or below 7%). If that is the case, you should consider the way you plan out your mixes, I usually try and avoid mixing tracks that have too big of a difference in BPM. I guess another reason I would re-pitch during the track is if I couldn't reach the target BPM while beatmatching the incoming track. Again, you need to consider why you are mixing such contrasting BPM's. The only other reason I can think of is if your turntables don't have a solid key lock, the song can sound nasty if the pitch is turned up or down too much. In these cases, I would advise adjusting a little bit, but slowly or during a break so it is not noticeable. Otherwise, keep the BPM's where they at young man!!!!!

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