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xKaoSx
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Captors behead U.S. hostage Johnson

Well- Sad- but you pretty much knew it was going to happen...

So lets go over what this whole thing accomplished for them....
oh yea- nothing- They're right back to where they started- their "leader" still captive and now they're looking for more easy targets to capture and behead.

Seriously though- Say we do get out - what do people like this do after we leave? They dont have anything better to do so this is their life. Why do I doubt that once we leave- they will go back to their jobs at jack in the box or making quilts.



(CNN) -- Al Qaeda militants kept a pledge to kill their American hostage, posting three chilling photographs Friday on an Islamist Web site to prove they had beheaded Paul Johnson Jr.

The Lockheed Martin Corp. employee was kidnapped in Riyadh last Saturday. Sources in Riyadh said Johnson's body was found in the eastern part of Riyadh; official statements are expected soon.

Abdel Aziz Al-Muqrin, the self-proclaimed military leader of al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, had threatened Tuesday to kill Johnson in 72 hours unless the Saudi government released al Qaeda prisoners and Westerners left the Arabian Peninsula.

"As we promised, we the mujahedeen from the Falluja Squadron slaughtered the American hostage Paul Johnson after the deadline we gave to the Saudi tyrants," a statement said on the Web site. It has been translated from the Arabic.

"So he got his fair share from this life and for him to taste a bit of what the Muslims have been suffering from Apache helicopter attacks. They were tortured by its missiles."

Johnson, 49, worked on Apache helicopters in Saudi Arabia and had lived there for more than a decade.

U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell condemned what he called an "action of barbarism."

"It shows once again what the world is dealing with -- to behead somebody or murder somebody, somebody innocent who was only trying to help," he said. "It will cause us and the Saudis to redouble our efforts to go after the terrorists wherever they are, wherever they hide."

But a senior U.S. State Department official told CNN the United States would now act to "batten down the hatch and don't give them an easy target," and urge Americans to leave the country.

"We want Americans to leave. We want the people that are there to take appropriate precautions," the official said.

The official added that Johnson lived away from the heavy fortified expatriate compounds and "was a sitting duck."

The al Qaeda Web statement also said the killing was "a lesson for them to learn for whoever comes to our country, this will be their punishment."

Al-Muqrin had claimed responsibility for Johnson's kidnapping and the death of another American, Kenneth Scroggs, on Saturday on behalf of a group called the Al Falluja Squadron, which claims to have ties to al Qaeda.

The photographs on the Web site plainly show the face of Johnson, the man seen in videotapes with his captors earlier this week.

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BadBadNeil
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*waites for people to say Bush did it*

This stuff is just sad and disturbing and even more disturbing to me that even if they are caught they will probably just go to prison.

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*waites for people to say Bush did it*

This stuff is just sad and disturbing and even more disturbing to me that even if they are caught they will probably just go to prison.


What if the intermin government gets in power and they catch the people who did this after we leave? would they actually punish them? I doubt it.

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What if the intermin government gets in power and they catch the people who did this after we leave? would they actually punish them? I doubt it.

i'm not sure where your going with that statement, but this was in Saudi Arabia.

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quote:
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*waites for people to say Bush did it*


igottaknow beat everybody http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=189969

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Are you guys still surprised any longer, I certainly am not. These individuals truly are two-bit degenerate, intolerant, mad dogs of the Middle East. Look at us we chop heads off and our God is greater than yours and will welcome us to paradise for espousing our intolerant, subhumanoid views onto the infidels. If I was Muslim in Saudi Arabia I would be nervous that these are the "vanguards of revolutionary action" in my country, then I remember many Saudis accept this behavior be it tacit or implicit so what difference does it make.

If I was Westerner in Saudi Arabia I would realize the risks and leave, that is the best available option. A repugnant, intolerant, undemocratic and religously driven society such as Saudi Arabia can never defend a Westerner, those guarding you might kill you. Even the Saudi government has body guards from other Muslim countries because they can't trust their own. Welcome to a zealous, religous society, death to the infidels


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i'm not sure where your going with that statement, but this was in Saudi Arabia.


I meant the reference to US capturing them they would go to prison- maybe if Iraqi officials caught them they would execute the ******s.

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I wish the heads that were rolling would be in the White House and Pentagon instead of innocent civilians who are paying the price for bush's mistakes.


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If I was Westerner in Saudi Arabia I would realize the risks and leave, that is the best available option. A repugnant, intolerant, undemocratic and religously driven society such as Saudi Arabia can never defend a Westerner, those guarding you might kill you. Even the Saudi government has body guards from other Muslim countries because they can't trust their own. Welcome to a zealous, religous society, death to the infidels


LOL - Werd

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quote:
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Are you guys still surprised any longer, I certainly am not. These individuals truly are two-bit degenerate, intolerant, mad dogs of the Middle East. Look at us we chop heads off and our God is greater than yours and will welcome us to paradise for espousing our intolerant, subhumanoid views onto the infidels. If I was Muslim in Saudi Arabia I would be nervous that these are the "vanguards of revolutionary action" in my country, then I remember many Saudis accept this behavior be it tacit or implicit so what difference does it make.

If I was Westerner in Saudi Arabia I would realize the risks and leave, that is the best available option. A repugnant, intolerant, undemocratic and religously driven society such as Saudi Arabia can never defend a Westerner, those guarding you might kill you. Even the Saudi government has body guards from other Muslim countries because they can't trust their own. Welcome to a zealous, religous society, death to the infidels


It's not even religion. The top Saudi clerics openly stated that those who murdered innocent hostages such as Johnson would NOT get into heaven. This has absolutely nothing to do with religion or Iraq or Bush. THe goal of Al-Qaeda is quite clear. If they drive out all foreigners from Saudi Arabia the monarchy will crumble. The monarchy NEEDS foreign workers and they need foreign investment. Without them, their position destabilizes which creates a power vacuum that Al-Qaeda can fill. Therefore, they don't give two shits whether religious clerics condemn the murder. I would go so far to say that they didn't want the Saudis to cooperate and release prisoners.


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I wish the heads that were rolling would be in the White House and Pentagon instead of innocent civilians who are paying the price for bush's mistakes.


I wonder if it actually BOTHERS GW or does it just roll off his prickled back and shrugs it off?

I for one couldnt have it on my head that I was responsible (when it really comes down to it) for 2 americans being beheaded. That's not very good publicity for the Bush campaign.

Next we'll see slogans with Reagans' casket and two beheaded body's and the caption saying something rediculous because "I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE" or whatever the idiot does.

I am so embarrassed for my own country sometimes.

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and dats why kerry must win


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