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occrider
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Irony: Muslim Soldiers Fighting for France Graves Defaced With Swastikas

Now I'm no genious, but someone please explain the logic as to why a frenchman would deface the grave of a muslim soldier fighting for the French against the Nazis with swastikas. Assuming that they wanted French independance of course ...

But wouldn't a jewish star be more appropriate or something?


Muslim graves defaced in France




A total of 48 gravestones were vandalised
Vandals have daubed swastikas on the graves of Muslim soldiers in a military cemetery in Alsace, eastern France.
Seven gravestones were also smashed in the attack on the cemetery in Hagenau, north of Strasbourg.

The graves were those of Muslim soldiers who died fighting for France in the first and second world wars.

President Jacques Chirac condemned the attack, describing it as "an insult to the memory of the soldiers who gave their lives for our country."

Vandalism spree

Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin also denounced the graffiti, urging people to "rally against hatred."

The desecration of the Muslim graves is the latest in a string of similar incidents in the Alsace region.

About a dozen graffiti attacks have been reported in recent weeks, some aimed at Jewish and Christian sites.

Earlier this month, 60 graves in the Muslim section of a Strasbourg cemetery were defaced.

According to local Islamic leaders, there were seven such attacks on Muslim sites in April alone.

Dalil Boubakeur, leader of France's Council of the Muslim Faith, on Thursday urged the authorities to track down and punish the perpetrators.

He described the latest graffiti attacks as an "unbearable Islamophobic event."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3837591.stm


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imokruok
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Hitler did recruit Middle-Eastern armies in his quest to exterminate the Jews. I don't know if that's the reason for the swastikas though.


Pictures taken in 1943 of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini reviewing Bosnian-Muslim troops - a unit of the "Hanjar (Saber) Division" of the Waffen SS which he personally recruited for Hitler.


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BadBadNeil
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Only thing I can think of is pro-nazi people put the marks there not to show that the Muslims were nazis but to show their nazi hatred for what the Muslims did in WWII...

There were quite a few that fought with Hitler though in WWII as well as defending France so its quite confusing but the best guess I can make. http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/hanjar.html

Perhaps its just children who don't know what they doing. You see that a lot here in the US where kids just deface gravestones and turn them over without thinking about it and rather because of being bored.

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Only thing I can think of is pro-nazi people put the marks there not to show that the Muslims were nazis but to show their nazi hatred for what the Muslims did in WWII...



Heh yes but how many pro-Nazi frenchmen are there? You don't meet very many people who want their country invaded (not vichy frenchmen they're different ... they only surfaced after the invasion).


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Yes true

However there are quite a few pro-nazi people here as well even though sometimes they are hard to find. Perhaps they sympathized with the Nazi doctrines and wished their country would be part of a Nazi European regime. Beats me though, im guessing way out there on this one!

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Q5echo
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he's right. it's not so much about the specific history, but the ideals, the movement.

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When will folks wake up and realize that the war on terror is a war about religious beliefs? There is a radical right Muslim faction and that is the heart of terrorism. The French are communists with leftist views.


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When will folks wake up and realize that the war on terror is a war about religious beliefs? There is a radical right Muslim faction and that is the heart of terrorism. The French are communists with leftist views.


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The French are communists with leftist views.


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so whoever disagrees with George W. Bush is a communist radical leftist...smart real smart

when will you realize that you're a moron and that you seriously don't have three kids


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quote:
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so whoever disagrees with George W. Bush is a communist radical leftist...smart real smart

when will you realize that you're a moron and that you seriously don't have three kids


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quote:
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so whoever disagrees with George W. Bush is a communist radical leftist...smart real smart

when will you realize that you're a moron and that you seriously don't have three kids

i've never seen this guy in the political forum and he can already read Smokeape like a book

so true

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