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soundrush
aka Charlie Brownz



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: In A Loop
displeased with my productions

i've noticed that i'm not pleased with my productions in the majority of cases. maybe its because im a weak producer but rather i suppose that the fact of hearing them constantly during the production process let them appear a bit boring to me. have you guys made similar experiences or am i totaly alone with this impression?

Old Post Jun-23-2004 19:49  Germany
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Floorfiller
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Illegal Pete's

i hear you...if i don't make the greatest track of all time...its not good enough hehehe...i definitely think that hearing it soooo often takes away from a track...just like in tracks that you haven't made...

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EternalMusic
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Tiberias, Israel

hi there Soundrush ,
We have all been in your position atleast once. Producing isnt easy, and sometimes we think we will never manage to create something good, but with some hard work, patience, time you'll eventualy get there. Also, if you start a track and in the middle you say " oh fuck it its not good ", dont stop working on it. Finish it, even if it sounds like a tetris game. The more experince the faster you'll get there. What do you use to produce your music? Im using FL, so if you need some help you can allways ask for it . Im no Armin van buuren or something, but just been playing around with stuff for a long time now,
Cheers,
Hope it helps.


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Old Post Jun-23-2004 21:09  Israel
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dj prometheus
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Registered: May 2004
Location: oregon usa

Hmm I think we all have times like that man.I feel every song I do is good untill I make another one and then the previous song I was so proud of sounds like crap to me.I think this is just the getting better process.I know for a fact though that I have a lot of dedication to what I do and so I know I will be someday pleased with all my works after I level out and all songs sound okay even after a new song comes out.I feel when I come to that point thats when I might start passing cd's out.I think we all must go through the learning process though and its kinda a time where a lot of people give up.Only the dedicated make it through and I think its kinda vital as I believe most of the people who give up were probably doing it for the wrong reasons in the first place.

No matter what I reccomend spending at least three hours a day on your music weather it be composing, remastering,downloading samples or just good old fuckin around on half projects you are gonna throw away before you finish.I have missed parties, dates with girls, and a lot of other oportunities because I was in the middle of a project.

I slightly disagree with the comment above.If the song stops heading in the direction you want it to sometimes its best to scrap it but as with the song I am currently working on it i just threw away half of it and kept the core and rewrote the rest so its really on a individual example basis.

Old Post Jun-23-2004 23:37  United States
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josh
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Singapore

quote:
Originally posted by dj prometheus
Hmm I think we all have times like that man.I feel every song I do is good untill I make another one and then the previous song I was so proud of sounds like crap to me.


I had this mind set too. However when you think is good. u let others listen might not be good. Hurt is what we get at times because we had not reach the standard yet but nevertheless, keep on trying. im sure you me and other always strive harder each day on producing music. If it sound crapz, work on that more. play the notes to be more catchy. put in more effect and layers to sound full and exciting.

Music are just a journey. Plain to wonderful feeling to exciting to memorable to rest.

Good luck to all and me as well. hehe


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Old Post Jun-24-2004 02:49  Singapore
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soundrush
aka Charlie Brownz



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: In A Loop

thanks guys, you were realy constitutive. probably its good that im not content with my music so i go on and on and on producing till i reached a good level and then i will still go on and on and on...

to eternalmusic: thanks buddy, i've been working with fruityloops for three years. currently im switching to reason but if i need some fruity help i will contact you

have to leave now.. *producing*


niklas

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Teemu
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Registered: May 2004
Location: The Matrix

hmm.... i've got another problem, when i compose track today it sounds good, but when i get up another day and listen to it, it sounds like a shit...just dunno what to do...maybe it's some sort of psychological problem?


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soundrush
aka Charlie Brownz



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: In A Loop

erm... that just appears to me when i have been drunk or stoned while i was producing.

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josh
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Singapore

quote:
Originally posted by Teemu
hmm.... i've got another problem, when i compose track today it sounds good, but when i get up another day and listen to it, it sounds like a shit...just dunno what to do...maybe it's some sort of psychological problem?


It also happen to me again. Psychological would be the problem. Because you do it yesterdae you feel that its nice and it always ringing in ur mind for a long time. But rem, your mind is tired at the same time. So, when your asleep, the melody kinda ringing in ur mind. So when you woke up, you found that there's more to improve when you listen again. Need not to get worried, just play the sound and melody again.

That show that you are serious of your work.

Just my point of view koz it happened to me alot of times.


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Digital Aura
Project5 Guru



Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Sarnia, Ontario Christian Trance Producer
Big Ears

I dont suppose that even Armin makes great songs every time. I mean, I would imagine every producer makes 4 or 5 crap tunes to every good one! And REALLY good ones are even more rare.
Thats what makes them so great... they're rare and valuable like a gem.
If we all banged off QUALITY HITS everytime, we'd be in a world of hurt!


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ilalin
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: London

Just think about one simple fact: usually when you listen to a song, there is seldom more than 4 elements appearing at the same time. By elements I mean, drums, bass, pad and a lead (voice). There are of course effects that you might add on top, but usually a great song is relativelly simple with elements being introduced and taken out to increase the excitement. Another thing that might help you in your productions is that it is very important to think in 3-dimensional terms, frequency is height, panning is width and reverb and early reflections are depth.

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Massive84
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Sequence Realm

quote:
Originally posted by soundrush
thanks guys, you were realy constitutive. probably its good that im not content with my music so i go on and on and on producing till i reached a good level and then i will still go on and on and on...

to eternalmusic: thanks buddy, i've been working with fruityloops for three years. currently im switching to reason but if i need some fruity help i will contact you

have to leave now.. *producing*


niklas


reason rulez!

good job (y)!


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