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VaNFeCto
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Registered: Aug 2002
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Is Reason Enough?

I had the notion to get a powerful laptop and then install reason on it. My question is this enough, will I need a keyboard or anyother sort of equipment, and will I be able to make a complete track on just reason, thanx in advance and please excuse my noobism.


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FuzzyGreen
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Registered: May 2001
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Yes you could make your entire track in Reason, but you will lack a lot of creative possibilities.

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VaNFeCto
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Registered: Aug 2002
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If you dont mind me asking like what, and what would I need to get in order to utilize these creatvie possibilities, and once again Im sorry I am completely new all I have is a love and drive to make music, so simply speaking I know nothing. Also hate to bother you minimal equipment would I need on a bit of a budget?


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Ozgur Can Feat. Nick Beman - Not Even Winds
Powerplant - Turn It To Gold (Madoka's Mix)
Sultan & The Greek - Wadi (Original Mix)
Carlos Vives - Comu Tu (Paul Oakenfold Mix)
Bjork - Violently Happy (Mercurio Mix)

Old Post Jun-16-2004 21:50  United States
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trancenrg69
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To make a great track in Reason you need to be very talented. I suggest starting off with fruity. It will allow you to understand how vsti works, its very easy to put together ideas, and it is great for learning how to make drum patterns.

A great trance beginner setup would be fruity, with zeta+, vstation, pro 53,albino, and vanguard.

Get yourself some drum samples. You can find alot of free ones on this board or if u do a google search. good luck

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Timothy
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quote:
Originally posted by trancenrg69
To make a great track in Reason you need to be very talented. I suggest starting off with fruity. It will allow you to understand how vsti works, its very easy to put together ideas, and it is great for learning how to make drum patterns.

A great trance beginner setup would be fruity, with zeta+, vstation, pro 53,albino, and vanguard.

Get yourself some drum samples. You can find alot of free ones on this board or if u do a google search. good luck


Or a used Virus if you got an good audio card. Record your compositions with the Virus and use recycle so you can import your compositions into DR.Rex

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acell
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Melbourne

I think reason is enough to start with..

i mean.. whats the point on getting external gear if your not at a point where programing synths is easy?

get a good external soundcard for your lappy with asio support.. even the USB Audigy searies would be fine for your needs.. download kx audio drivers and use thoes instead of the ones that come with the card..

reason is a powerfull tool no matter what everyone else sez, you just need to learn it. and lets be honest, your not signed yet and your skill level is not 100% there (nore is mine) so spending your hard earnd fabulous ($) on things that just arn't going to aid you at this stage is just stupid (imo)

now i use reason and fruity rewired together.. but this is my conclusion about reason for someone starting out

1) CPU friendly
2) everything your need (sort'a) in one program
3) extensive support
4) well laid out
5) good tutorials on this forum for making supersaws ()
6) you seem to get great praise when you make a good sound in it

so.. the choice is yours... my 2 cents really.. i've only now started to play with fruity and vstis and a bit of cubase.. been using reason for 3 years now since version 1.. best of luck

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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
but you will lack a lot of creative possibilities.

And how is that, exactly?


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ZxZDeViLZxZ
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invest in firewire soundcard invest in usb midi controller and dont start with reason. i say dont start with reason because theres no need to you wont ever just use reason and if you do then your tracks will lack i strongly suggest you just suck it up and either learn cubase or start on fruity loops 4.5 with vsti instruments and vsti effects. some great vstis are absynth, fm7, pro-53, vanguard, claw, z3ta, albino, B4, TBL, PlastiCZ!, Junox2, v-station, scoprion 4, bass-station. honestly save yourself the trouble use cubase or flp youll thank yourself when youve been doing it for a while


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VaNFeCto
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thanx guys, really appreciate the support, so if I get this str8 ure saying fruity loops is easier to learn and cubase is easier or wat?


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Ozgur Can Feat. Nick Beman - Not Even Winds
Powerplant - Turn It To Gold (Madoka's Mix)
Sultan & The Greek - Wadi (Original Mix)
Carlos Vives - Comu Tu (Paul Oakenfold Mix)
Bjork - Violently Happy (Mercurio Mix)

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acell
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Melbourne

i would sudjest that if you don't know any of the 3 programs spoken of here (reason, fruity and cubase) then i would say start with the best.. cubase.. it's harder to learn then the other 2 but the end result is that much better.. plus vsti's (supported by both cubase and fruity) like pro-53 and Z3ta will always kick the shit out of reason..

PLUS if you want to get hardware synths later on i understand it that cubase supports them much better then fruity does and reason doesn't at all..

that said, if you are after a simple and effect method of making music then i sudjest reason as i stated in the post before..

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h.vox
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Re: Is Reason Enough?

quote:
Originally posted by VaNFeCto
I had the notion to get a powerful laptop and then install reason on it. My question is this enough, will I need a keyboard or anyother sort of equipment, and will I be able to make a complete track on just reason, thanx in advance and please excuse my noobism.


no, you will not. you might, however, in some time start to feel restrained by its closed architecture, but, then again, you might like it the way it is, just like thousands people on this small planet already do. and yes, you can make a complete track in it.
you do not need a keyboard or any additional hardware, but i really really suggest you get a midi controller keyboard, something like edirol pc30, evolution mk449c or radium 49.

Old Post Jun-17-2004 06:25  Croatia
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h.vox
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Registered: May 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by VaNFeCto
thanx guys, really appreciate the support, so if I get this str8 ure saying fruity loops is easier to learn and cubase is easier or wat?


i consider fruity to be simpler to use and much more powerful. it does not look so nice, with all those reason rack components, but what the heck

the cubase is the most powerful of the lot, has the most possibilities, but it can be hard to learn. i tried using reason 1, but ditched it because of its sequencer, worked with fruity for a year or so (before version 4) and dropped it when a friend of mine taught me cubase. now i use cubase, and it kicks ass of everything else in both possibilities and workflow - at least for me. download demo versions of fruity and reason (cubase does not have one unfortulately - as far as i know) and try for yourself. you mihgt also try some alternatives like traction or orion.

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