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Originally posted by Spartan Right now my GPA is a piss poor 2.47 and I'm majoring in Industrial Engineering. My question is how much does GPA actually matter in post-college job interviews? I mean do you even have to put it on your resume after your first job? Feedback plz.

i think work experience is pretty high on their list of things to look at. as for gpa, i was always told if you dont put it on the resume then they assume the worst.

all college does is help you get that first job...after that experience is the key.

but it does look better of course if you can put a nice gpa on your resume for that first job hehehe.

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Originally posted by Spartan Right now my GPA is a piss poor 2.47 and I'm majoring in Industrial Engineering. My question is how much does GPA actually matter in post-college job interviews? I mean do you even have to put it on your resume after your first job? Feedback plz.

some companies care about gpa a lot. after your first job it isnt as important as experience. but with 2.47 i wouldnt even put it on your resume for your first out of school job. fortunately i've heard IE's get hired pretty easily. at least they did in my school - they always had 100% job placements in their graduating classes...

just lie.

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Ive been involved with CEOs most of my life due to a lot of things. I know people from steel companies to high tech consulting firms and here is what they say:

Unless the school you went to is an Ivy League or one of the crazy well known ones, where you went doesnt matter. Your GPA, doesnt matter. Your major, doesnt matter.

Here is why college is important.

the first 12 years of school were mandatory. After highschool you had a choice: Go onto university, something that you knew was going to be harder than anything youve done, pick your own major, and do it for four years. It gets really hard sometimes. You have to balance life and school and work and money and all sorts of crap. Sometimes it just doesnt seem worth it.

What a degree means is that for 4 years you stuck through something you werent sure was going to really help you. You kept going even though it got tough, and you followed through on your committment to yourself from the beginning to finish school.

THATS what a degree means. Grad school is just an extension of that. Ive seen psychology majors become CEOs of companies after doing a career path like :

taking an IQ test at IBM, getting hired because they were smart. They gained experience through IBM. Left, did their own thing.

Anyway. Dont sweat it. Just graduate. and dont put your GPA on your resume.

Ill throw in my "credentials" as well. My dad used to run all largy systems for West Coast IBM before they tried to move him into the VP office in New York. He quit. He wanted to stay here. He then became president of a gourmet coffee roasting company. Sold it for a few million. Then he was hired on as president to turn around a high-tech consulting firm. rose the stock from 2 to 25. Then left to start his own. It was in the papers for being the fastest growing tech consulting firm in west coast history.

He passed the MCAT LSAT. He scored in the 99th percentile on the IBM IQ test. He is connected to senators and congressmen, mayors, governors, you name it. He knows people from admissions from pretty much every ivy league school. Hes connected to the top law firms in the area.

The other guy is the Regional Manager for one of the largest steel companies in the western US.

My sister did HR and recruiting for 5 years before quitting and moving on. My mom did Office Management for about the same amount.

My dad has fired and hired and had thousands and thousands of people working for him. So has the steel dude. My sister worked intimately with the recruiters (HR doesnt hire, they shouldnt even be getting the resumes) and knows the systems well.

Nobody puts SATs on there unless they got 1600. No one puts GPA unless it was 3.95+. They look for level of education, experience, and how well they can mesh into the corporate agenda. If you have a lot of degrees and awards and honors and whatnot THOSE get listed.

They are looking for THESE things:

Hard worker
self motivated
takes the initiative
well respected
drives numbers
consistent growth
likes to learn
Honest/Moral
can handle customers
a problem solver
and the ability to utilize knowledge effectively.

Everything else is BS and unless you went to the same frat or something no one will give a shit.

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Originally posted by Spartan Right now my GPA is a piss poor 2.47 and I'm majoring in Industrial Engineering. My question is how much does GPA actually matter in post-college job interviews? I mean do you even have to put it on your resume after your first job? Feedback plz.

Just move the decimal point one place to the right

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GIGANTIC CUNT

a degree is a degree.
you will have done better than the vast majority of people out there. Dont sweat the GPA too much.

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Retired TA.

Besides you have a higher gpa than the leader of the freeworld errr maybe that's not the best example

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GIGANTIC CUNT

well, that your opinion on the GPA hehe.

and what I listed arent put explicitly. it should be something like:


Consistently voted most valuable salesperson for personally accounting for 80% of the revenue for the department.

Congratulated by General Manager for being "best" in customer relations. Received multiple awards for honesty and reliability.

Was often sought out by upper management and staff for help with problems. Was able to raise productivity by 30% by clearly defining approachable work spaces and accountability. Built in better employee reduncy systems.

Revenue goals increased by 50% during the time spent selling. Still maanged to account for 80% of sales revenue. Customer base was increasing rapidly.

Anyone whos says Here Are My Skills:

____ ____ and____

is a douche who wont get hired.

I majored in IE and graduated with a GPA below 3.0. It's not good, but it's not bad. Work experience is important, so if you held a part-time job while going to school or had an internship, that works in your favor. Your resume is suppose to impress the HR people or whoever is recruiting, so if the GPA is lacking, leave it off. If your resume manages to get you interview, that's where you should make a big impression. They may ask about your GPA -- just maintain your confidence and give some good reasons for struggling through some classes.
Some companies will filter out new grads by GPA, some companies look beyond that. I had five or six job interviews before graduating and received three job offers.

Last edited by insideout on Jun-25-2004 at 21:15