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R.j.
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: L, TX, USA
beatmatching

ok well i've been practicing on beatmatching. i figured out dat u put it on a set pitch on both sides. and when u want to beatmatch u move the pitch slider down abit. (btw i have dual cd players connected to a mixer). after i move the pitch slider down, it matches the beats.

(i listen by ear, i dont use any bpm counter)

So here's my question. After I move the slider and matches the beats, they beats get out of place again. is wat do i do to match them again or to keep them matched?

A good answer instead of flames/dumb comments would be nice. If you got any other ways of beatmatching please share.


Thanks in advance,

RJ


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do a search

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R.j.
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Registered: Feb 2004
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already did(before i posted my question) didnt find anything wat i was lookin for.


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what's your question about beatmatching?


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Re: beatmatching

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Originally posted by R.j.
So here's my question. After I move the slider and matches the beats, they beats get out of place again. is wat do i do to match them again or to keep them matched?


All right, first of all, you are not really beatmatching. Right now all you are doing is lining up the beats. Beatmatching takes a lot more than just that. When the beats are lined up, then move the pitch slider faster or slower.... If the incoming record is slower than the one playing, speed it up. If the incoming record is faster than the one playing, slow it down. Re-align the beats. Keep doing this until the beats are in sync for a continuous minute or so. After a while, you won't keep having to align the beats because you will know almost exactly where to put the slider right when you put on the incoming track. From then on out it will be little adjustments (which are in your case done using the pitch bend to "push" the cd faster or "slow" the cd down).

Hope that helps.


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R.j.
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Re: Re: beatmatching

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Originally posted by Dirk W.
All right, first of all, you are not really beatmatching. Right now all you are doing is lining up the beats. Beatmatching takes a lot more than just that. When the beats are lined up, then move the pitch slider faster or slower.... If the incoming record is slower than the one playing, speed it up. If the incoming record is faster than the one playing, slow it down. Re-align the beats. Keep doing this until the beats are in sync for a continuous minute or so. After a while, you won't keep having to align the beats because you will know almost exactly where to put the slider right when you put on the incoming track. From then on out it will be little adjustments (which are in your case done using the pitch bend to "push" the cd faster or "slow" the cd down).

Hope that helps.


that my fellow ta's is an answer!

any more suggestions/tips would be nice


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you have to understand how the tracks are made up. say you have a track like this:

kick....kick....kick....kick....

you have that playing. you want to mix another one on top of it. only the other track could be like this:

kick.....kick.....kick.....kick.....

or like this:

kick...kick...kick...kick...

now, you must use the pitch slider to make the track you want to mix go at the same speed as the one that is playing. in other words, you make it so there is the same amount of space, or time, if you will, between kicks. so in simplification, you should get the second track to be as the first:

kick....kick....kick....kick....

then, you line up the beats as you have been doing, and the tracks will be matched. trust me, it's not as easy as it sounds, but with practice you will be able to do it second nature. in theory it's very very simple, in practice, not as much.

the easiest way to learn is to pitch the records as close as you can by just listening, then line up the beats, while still monitoring, use your pitch bend to make corrections, and move your pitch slider accordingly, till both are in a position where no corrections are need.

ps. this won't apply to breakbeat tracks, since they don't just use kicks. for those, it's a bit different, but that's a whole other ballgame.


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quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
kick....kick....kick....kick....

you have that playing. you want to mix another one on top of it. only the other track could be like this:

kick.....kick.....kick.....kick.....

or like this:

kick...kick...kick...kick...

now, you must use the pitch slider to make the track you want to mix go at the same speed as the one that is playing. in other words, you make it so there is the same amount of space, or time, if you will, between kicks. so in simplification, you should get the second track to be as the first:

kick....kick....kick....kick....




hahaahaahah i love this post! a very creative way to use '...' to denote the speed of a track.


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Inertia
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quote:
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hahaahaahah i love this post! a very creative way to use '...' to denote the speed of a track.


i actually had a friend who printed something very similar to that out, and keeps it in the drawer of the table where his decks are on. whenever someone new goes to his place and wants to learn to spin he gives them the paper first, before saying anything


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quote:
Originally posted by razzi
hahaahaahah i love this post! a very creative way to use '...' to denote the speed of a track.


^ agreed. very nice indeed!


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xmotleyx
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Seoul, South Korea

small tip:

Try beatmatching with two tracks that sound very different and leave both channels wide open. You will know when they are matched and when not easily. Then after a few days or weeks go back to headset monitoring and it will be easier....

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R.j.
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Registered: Feb 2004
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thank you every1


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