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Spad
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Chesterfield ,UK

To remix or not to remix?

Oops, posted this in DJ forum yesterday by mistake

This may sound like a silly question, but are there general rules for when a tune "becomes a remix"?

For example some producers will use a sample from another tune, or sometimes copy an entire melody, but they will still take the credit as the artist. For example Vanguard - Flash isn't Queen - Flash (Vanguard Remix) (I can't believe this is the only tune that springs to mind )

Is there a general rule of thumb (or even a legal rule) as for when a tune should be classed as a remix?

Or is it usually left up to the decency of the producer/record company to decide which of them made the bigger contribution to the track, and then hope they don't get sued?

Reason being; I'm thinking about liberating about 30 seconds worth of spoken vocals from an old tune, but none of the sang, and my tune probably wont be based on the one I stole em from. (I'll also add that the vocals will be instantly recognisable to 90% of the world so it's not as though I'll be pulling the wool over anybodys eyes).

It's not important to me either way, it just got me thinking is all.

I'll shut up and go to bed now

Jul-08-2004 15:12 United Kingdom

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

Well I think in this case Vanguard actually bought the rights to the tune so they could release it under their own name. It's the same with Tiësto's reworking of Adagio For Strings, he also got the rights to release it under his own name.

It's mostly a money issue rather than anything else - the tunes are called remixes when the label of the maker of the original asks you to remix it. In these cases the artists have probably done the versions by themselves and then asked for the rights from the label. I don't think it has anything to do with how much the original was used, really - money makes the world go 'round

Oh, and for as long as you're not actually trying to release it you can call it pretty much whatever you feel like

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Jul-08-2004 15:33 Finland

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Robert
Nick Robertson

Registered: Jan 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Well I think in this case Vanguard actually bought the rights to the tune so they could release it under their own name. It's the same with Tiësto's reworking of Adagio For Strings, he also got the rights to release it under his own name.

with most classical pieces there are no rights, i believe the copyrights by the composer are cleared 70 years after his death.
Perhaps it's not the same with Samuel Barber though as he's only been dead for about 20 years or so.
Anyway, you should be safe remixing (older) classical stuff.

Jul-09-2004 00:06 Norway

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Digital Aura
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Sarnia, Ontario Christian Trance Producer

70 years? hmmm

did you know that "Happy Birthday" (music and lyrics)is owned by AOL Time Warner? How many times have you sang this in your life without paying royalties!!?? PAY UP!!

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Jul-09-2004 00:19 Canada

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Robert
with most classical pieces there are no rights, i believe the copyrights by the composer are cleared 70 years after his death.

...unless the rights belong to a label.

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Robert
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
...unless the rights belong to a label.

... there weren't many around in mozart's time..

Jul-09-2004 05:06 Norway

Swing
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Swinging

Absolutely true about classical music.

That's why it's always so cheap.

The labels/orchestra's own the recording, but not the music.

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Robert
... there weren't many around in mozart's time..

Erm... yes, I know. I was talking about more recent tracks.

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