I've actually heard from many pro-Kerry individuals that they believe Mrs. Heinz-Kerry could be a real pain in the butt for the Kerry election campaign. She's not a "people person," she doesn't speak well, she's reported to be a roaring bitch and to alienate herself further from the die-hard American population she has an accent and is not native born. Supposedly that is why we have seen so little of Mrs. Heinz-Kerry thus far in the election, they're afraid she could turn into a liability.

What do you think? How much weight can the first lady carry (both positive and negative) in an election?

The Story.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/...4353275,00.html

If Dick Cheney can tell a senator to "go fuck himself" without any significant repurcussions, then I don't believe this incident in itself will be an issue. As for Mrs Kerry in general, would you really think that the disposition of the candidate's wife could ever be a major issue? Has it ever been?

(I'm not being rhetorical, I'm genuinely curious.)

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Is it always a thorn in the side for conservatives to have an outspoken, strong-willed wife of a liberal President (or Presidential candidate)?

Times have changed. Women don't always slide nicely and dutifully right up to their husbands the way that Laura Bush so eagerly does.

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Truthfully, no I don't see a wife of a Presidential candidate to be much of an issue in the first place, but from what I've seen of Teresa Heinz-Kerry I like and respect. I'm not sure how she could be seen as a liability - the only people I've heard that from are the conservative radio/TV commentators and op-ed pieces.

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Originally posted by Renegade As for Mrs Kerry in general, would you really think that the disposition of the candidate's wife could ever be a major issue? Has it ever been? (I'm not being rhetorical, I'm genuinely curious.)

I'm not sure, I don't know if it's really ever been an issue before. But as it seems that politics has become increasingly critical on peronsal flaws, maybe it could. As I said, the Kerry camp has reportedly kept her out of the spotlight for the fear of what could happen. It would really be up to the media I suppose, as to whether or not they want to make any perosonality issues of Mrs. Heinz Kerry an issue. It could be interesting to see.

Politics aside, she's a bitch. I dare say she's got Kerry by the puppet strings. I saw an interview of the two of them right after Kerry picked Edwards for his running mate--they were asking Tereeeeza what she thought of Kerry's choice and she hesitated for a moment, kind of glanced at Kerry, and then replied with something to the effect of "If I had a serious problem with it, he'd know."

And I was left wondering exactly who was running for office, let alone who was wearing the pants in that family(as if it's not obvious!). She creeps me out.

I heard that Cheney got a hard on and was batting her puppy dog eyes after she told that reporter to shove it.

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Originally posted by occrider I heard that Cheney got a hard on and was batting her puppy dog eyes after she told that reporter to shove it.

Was that before or after the "Nurse Fuzzywuzzy" comment?

There are different ways to say profanity, out of sarcasm, anger, arrogance, etc and I think cheny and her profanity came out differently.

She seems like a snobby bitch to me but it really doesn't matter in the end. This isn't a presidential wife campaign.

Mmmm I saw a totally different article, that actually praises Ms. Heniz compared to the current First Lady.. therefore, they fear Ms.Heinz...

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Kerry's Wife Teresa: an Unusual Political Spouse BOSTON (Reuters) - Worth an estimated $500 million, born in Mozambique, fluent in five languages, outspoken and "sexy," Teresa Heinz Kerry is not your average political spouse. The wife of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry also runs a $2 billion foundation named after her late husband, Republican Sen. John Heinz of Pennsylvania, and occasionally bakes her special brownies for the campaign press corps. She is known to close friends as "Momma T," only recently added Kerry's name to hers and changed her party affiliation to Democratic out of anger at the way Republicans treated Vietnam veteran Max Cleland during his unsuccessful re-election bid to a U.S. Senate seat from Georgia in 2002. "I'm cheeky; I'm sexy, whatever," she told CBS in a recent interview. "You know, I've got a lot of life inside." On the campaign trail, the 5-foot-5-inch Heinz Kerry introduces her lanky husband -- who stands almost a foot taller -- in a soft, accented voice. Often Kerry asks for the sound to be turned up. She alludes to her background, the daughter of a doctor raised under a repressive dictatorship in the Portuguese colony of Mozambique and schooled in racially segregated South Africa. "Places where I come from, people didn't vote," she said recently in Raleigh, North Carolina, campaigning with the newly named vice presidential candidate John Edwards and his wife Elizabeth, whom she helped "figure out what clothes you need." Heinz Kerry, 65, admits she is hardly the stereotypical political wife, but says if voters could not accept her, she would have heard about it by now. She can be outspoken, disclosing her Botox injections, the 20 pounds she says she has gained on the campaign trail, her prenuptial agreement with Kerry and the fact that he was in the shower when he got word of his early wins in the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. She is wealthy from her marriage to Heinz, the heir to the Pittsburgh ketchup empire who died in a plane crash and who, she said, was "kind enough to even introduce me to John (Kerry) the day before he was killed." MERGED FAMILIES When she and the senator from Massachusetts married at her multimillion dollar waterfront estate in Nantucket in 1995, two families were instantly melded. Heinz Kerry has three grown sons. Tall, dark and handsome, Chris, 31, was recently named one of People magazine's 50 hottest bachelors. The most politically active of the children, he quit a job at a New York equity firm to join his stepfather's campaign. Andre Heinz, 34, lives in Sweden, where he is an environmental consultant. He has made a few campaign appearances. John Heinz IV, 37, a blacksmith and teacher who lives in Pennsylvania, has shunned the limelight. Kerry has two daughters from his first marriage, which ended in divorce. Alexandra, 30, just graduated from film school in Los Angeles, and Vanessa, 27, is studying medicine at Harvard. Both are single and campaign frequently, both with their father and on their own. Heinz Kerry plans to keep working at the family's philanthropic network if her husband becomes president "because I am allowed to and I will. I would dry up if I didn't." "I don't want a public policy job," she told Reuters in an interview earlier this year. Nevertheless, she said she was "a sounding board" for her husband on his selection of Edwards, a former rival for the Democratic presidential nomination and a one-term senator from North Carolina, to fill out the Democratic ticket. "Her input is important on everything," Kerry told CNN's "Larry King Live." "First of all, she's smart as a whip. Secondly, she's got as much common sense ... (as) everybody that I've ever met." But the man who will face President Bush in the Nov. 2 election quickly disabused the audience of the notion that Heinz Kerry would be involved in policy matters. "She doesn't want to be a policy adviser," he said. "She wants to be my wife." 07/25/04 15:29 ET Copyright 2004 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.

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And Neophone, to answer to that "shove it " comment.. well, that conservative reporter was making up a false image of her by saying that she said something with "un-american" .. she then told him twice, " I did not Say that, I Did Not say that".. and then she came back to him, and told him to stop making up stuff, and to shove it..

Smart I would say, who wouldnt get mad to made up crap to destroy your image?

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Updated: 11:43 AM EDT Heinz Kerry Tells Reporter to 'Shove It' By PETER JACKSON, AP BOSTON (July 26) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry doesn't have a problem with his wife telling an insistent journalist to ''shove it'' when urged to explain her plea for more civility in politics. Neither does Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. ''I think my wife speaks her mind appropriately,'' Kerry told reporters Monday when asked about the exchange between his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, and the editorial page editor of the conservative Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Asked about the response on CNN's ''American Morning,'' Clinton said Monday, ''A lot of Americans are going to say, 'Good for you, you go, girl,' and that's certainly how I feel about it.'' Heinz Kerry attended a Massachusetts Statehouse reception Sunday night for fellow Pennsylvanians, telling them, ''We need to turn back some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics.'' She criticized the tenor of modern political campaigns without being specific. Minutes later, the Tribune-Review's Colin McNickle questioned Heinz Kerry on what she meant by the term ''un-American,'' according to a tape of the encounter recorded by Pittsburgh television station WTAE. Heinz Kerry said ''I didn't say that'' several times to McNickle. She then turned to confer with Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and others. When she faced McNickle again a short time later, he continued to question her, and she replied: ''You said something I didn't say. Now shove it.'' A spokeswoman for Heinz Kerry later said, ''This was sheer frustration aimed at a right-wing rag that has consistently and purposely misrepresented the facts in reporting on Mrs. Kerry and her family.'' Vice President Dick Cheney recently came under criticism for using a four-letter obscenity in an exchange with Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., on the Senate floor. He later was unapologetic about the remark, saying: ''I felt better after I said it." 07-26-04 1130EDT Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.

I totally applaud her for been straightforward.. and that doesnt show that shes a blalant bitch or something.. compared to Dick Cheney.. I mean, you people praise him and applaud him for that, buuut then she's a bitch for just saying.. "Shove It" heh.

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Originally posted by LiquidX And Neophone, to answer to that "shove it " comment.. well, that conservative reporter was making up a false image of her by saying that she said something with "un-american" .. she then told him twice, " I did not Say that, I Did Not say that".. and then she came back to him, and told him to stop making up stuff, and to shove it.. Smart I would say, who wouldnt get mad to made up crap to destroy your image?

The thing is...she did say that. This is a direct quote of what she said preceeding the question.

"We need to turn back some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics."

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Originally posted by NeoPhono The thing is...she did say that. This is a direct quote of what she said preceeding the question. "We need to turn back some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics."

True, but my "guess" is that the reporter was making it seem in other way that she did not meant it to be.. ??

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