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dig2k
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: UK

The end of free music on the net?

I think downloading of mp3z will be included in the following:

Council of Europe approves cybercrime treaty
14:09 Friday 21st September 2001
Wendy McAuliffe

The Convention will mark the first ever international set of laws to crack down on cybercrime

The Council of Europe Ministers' Deputies has approved the first international convention on cybercrime, which will set a common criminal policy on the misuse of computer networks and electronic information for terrorist or illegal activity.

The draft will be presented to a meeting of foreign affairs ministers in Strasbourg on 8 November, with the so-called "opening for signature" by member states taking place at an international conference in Budapest at the end of November. The Convention will enter into force when five states -- which must include at least three member states of the Council of Europe -- have ratified it.

The US will be one of the non-member states signing up to the agreement. It is unclear whether the timetable for the treaty has been brought forward in order to address the recent terrorist attacks on New York and Washington last week, but the main objective of the Convention is to foster international cooperation in protecting society against cybercrime.

"The US [terrorist] events have put these issues into a sharper focus -- there will be various statements coming at a European level in response to concerns raised in the States," said Richard Swetenham at the European Union Safer Internet Action Plan. "But it is uncertain whether this will have an impact on Strasbourg's timetable."

The Convention deals specifically with the distribution of child pornography on the Internet, infringements of copyright, computer-related fraud and violations of network security. It will also be supplemented by an additional protocol making any publication of racist material on the Internet a criminal offence.

The treaty also addresses the controversial interception of communications data for the purpose of criminal investigations, and requires signatory states to grant law enforcement authorities the power to collect or record traffic or content data in domestic law. It also provides measures for electronic information to be preserved by and Internet Service Provider for longer than the billing period, "in particular when there are grounds to believe that the computer data is particularly vulnerable to loss or modification."

The Convention on Cybercrime is the product of four years' work by Council of Europe experts, as well as those in the US, Canada and Japan. In the UK, its measures are likely to be ratified by the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act -- the final parts of which are scheduled to be implemented later this year.

Source: ZDNet.co.uk (http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2095796,00.html)

Sep-21-2001 15:18 Europe

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E.Sv
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Yekaterinburg, Russia

OK, I have read it. If mp3 will be illegal, I am going to use all my servers to provide the best trance hosting from Russia, because FBI & others will not get me @ home.
As the Love Committee said, You Can'T Stop Us!
It'll be ok!

Sep-21-2001 15:59 Russia

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Phrozen
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Sweden™

Like Cj slater said....they can't stop us...at least not all of us.

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Sep-21-2001 16:41

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torontotrance
I hath returned

Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

They have always gone on and on about mp3 and shit like that. As i always say Talk is Cheap, when they do something about it then i'll believe it.

Sep-21-2001 19:04 Canada

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harcourt
Listening to the sounds

Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto

I feel there are far far greater issues at hand and always will be, than myself and others downloading some harmless music over the internet. That treaty was brought to the spotlight because of the obvious recent attacks in the US, and the implications the internet had in the communications between the terrorist organizations. Terrorism and alike criminal activity hardly compare to the downloading of some mp3's IMO.

Sep-21-2001 19:33

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beroshima
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Chicago, USA

None of you guys sound like you were around in the pre-napster days. They can, and will hunt down any users they can. From the biggest providers, down to the smallest college student .

Back then, they arrested and fined people from the US, England and Germany who had a lot of mp3s on websites and ftp sites. They were very scared.

With the concept of a possible solution via napster, they backed off.

If this is true, be very ready - they want to do that.

This is the only thing about the war I am worrying about, reaching too far, using this 'terrorism' clause. Using it to chase down anything the US government doesn't like, including things like mp3s...

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Sep-21-2001 21:44 United States

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ta_wilson
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Minnesota(yes i am ashamed)

beroshima got it right. right on the fucking button

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Sep-22-2001 00:20 United States

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dig2k
ArminAddict

Registered: Aug 2001
Location: UK

yeah beroshima is rite...

this 1 of the 1st xamples of goverments using the terrorist acts to enable them to clamp down on rights etc. With all this stuff goin on ppl r less likely 2 notice, or mind 4 that matta...

Sep-22-2001 19:16 Europe

flystyler
Defected[JULES]Addict

Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Aylesbury, UK

Well there is always audiogalaxy, or another program, if one is shut down, many other pop up, illegal mp3z wil carry on for ever

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Sep-23-2001 13:03

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303
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: The last train to Lhasa

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
Well there is always audiogalaxy, or another program, if one is shut down, many other pop up, illegal mp3z wil carry on for ever

right on! and what about private servers....with logins and so on - they cant control it all...

Sep-23-2001 23:28 Sweden

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djSlain
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Registered: May 2001
Location: San Diego CA

Plan A:
Simply buy a small, used, "look @ the crossfader, it's been replaced by a kitkat" CD mixer for, hmmm, about $100. Then store it away. if the FBI ever comes to your house, show them the mixer and say you are a DJ and you are promoting the music @ clubs so that people will go out and [emphacize]LEGALLY[/emphacize] buy the music you are promoting. i guess, rite? well, @ least this is what i got off of homeofmusic.com

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Sep-23-2001 23:41

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tu_face
No Known Cure...

Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK

quote:
Originally posted by dig2k
this 1 of the 1st xamples of goverments using the terrorist acts to enable them to clamp down on rights etc. With all this stuff goin on ppl r less likely 2 notice, or mind 4 that matta...

Very true, the UK government is already talkin about bringing in ID cards for everyone, which when suggested a few years ago, was thrown out on the notion that it was a restriction of our freedom... so now some nasty ppl drive 2 planes into a building in america and that makes it NOT a restriction of our freedom??

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Sep-24-2001 10:41