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tupsox
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Peace activists


Caption: International peace activists and Palestinians scuffle with an Israeli border policeman during a protest against the construction of the controversial Israeli security barrier near the West Bank village of Az-Zawiya, August 9, 2004. REUTERS/Ammar Awad

Peace activists? Come on! Call them what they are...anti-Israel activists. I hate how anyone can masquerade as a "peace activist" and still vandalize property and attack people, including authority figures like cops and soldiers.


That guy on the left is truly devoted to his principles of non-violence.

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arctic
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The man in the lower photo appears to be a Palestinian (possibly a resident of the area?) -- has he ever identified himself as a 'peace activist'? If he has, do his actions mean that all peace activists hit people? Let's take the example of the Republican Party preselecting a candidate who is a professed supporter of eugenics and a racist who believes in 'superior races'. Does this mean that all Republicans are white nationalists/racists and support killing off others? As for labelling all 'peace activists' 'anti-Israeli activists', is there a problem with opposing Israel when it kills Palestinians/bulldozes people's houses? Is this in any way inconsistent with a desire to see peace in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

Finally, the bizarre 'authority figure' comment. Are you implying that because someone is a soldier, everything they do is therefore morally and ethically acceptable? If so, why? Are members of the Sudanese army (read: government death squads) acting like 'authority figures' when they exterminate entire villages?

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and then when the israeli soldiesrs are protecting them themselves the whole photographers are taking pictures of soldiers hiting civilians.


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are they all playing Twister together?

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quote:
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are they all playing Twister together?


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are they all playing Twister together?


lol, i guess they take it too seriously


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tupsox
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quote:
Originally posted by arctic
The man in the lower photo appears to be a Palestinian (possibly a resident of the area?) -- has he ever identified himself as a 'peace activist'? If he has, do his actions mean that all peace activists hit people? Let's take the example of the Republican Party preselecting a candidate who is a professed supporter of eugenics and a racist who believes in 'superior races'. Does this mean that all Republicans are white nationalists/racists and support killing off others? As for labelling all 'peace activists' 'anti-Israeli activists', is there a problem with opposing Israel when it kills Palestinians/bulldozes people's houses? Is this in any way inconsistent with a desire to see peace in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

Finally, the bizarre 'authority figure' comment. Are you implying that because someone is a soldier, everything they do is therefore morally and ethically acceptable? If so, why? Are members of the Sudanese army (read: government death squads) acting like 'authority figures' when they exterminate entire villages?


This is primarily an example of media bias: by definition, if you use violence to try to advance your cause, you are not a "peace activist". Yet certain circles deem any "left-wing", "anti-military" activists "peace activists".

When did I ever say all "peace activists" were "anti-Israel activists"? I said these activists were anti-Israel, and obviously hardly interested in "peace".

re: authority figure, see definition of "peace activist". If you attack them, you are not a peace activist.

I would just like some honesty in reporting. My initial post had nothing to do with whether the activists cause is justified (it is not, if you're curious ), merely that their violent tactics are whitewashed by a sympathetic world media.

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they a buncha hippies, i tell ya what bobby!

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poor border guards. The stink must be unbearable.

You have my sympathies


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Aren't there any trees out there in Israel for them to hug?


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When will they stop the hate and just hammer a peace agreement and a truce that solves the matters. It's unfortunate that both sides are so deeply dug into their beliefs that a peace agreement seems out of the question. The hate shows up here with Cyrus King, Zing, Malek, Fastmp3 and others and their views of things. You people show exactly why there is no peace agreement because your minds are so filled with hate for the other side. This problem has gone on far too long and it won't end if an agreement is not solved, more suicide bombings, more Isreal fighting back, more innocent people who want to live their lives without violence and just go living dying for no reason. The situation shows what happens when two sides hate each other so much that they can't do what's best for future generations (which is a peaceful upbringing without threats of violence) but no, both sides are too selfish to care about that or they would have solved this problem.

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Originally posted by torontotrance
When will they stop the hate and just hammer a peace agreement and a truce that solves the matters. It's unfortunate that both sides are so deeply dug into their beliefs that a peace agreement seems out of the question. The hate shows up here with Cyrus King, Zing, Malek, Fastmp3 and others and their views of things. You people show exactly why there is no peace agreement because your minds are so filled with hate for the other side. This problem has gone on far too long and it won't end if an agreement is not solved, more suicide bombings, more Isreal fighting back, more innocent people who want to live their lives without violence and just go living dying for no reason. The situation shows what happens when two sides hate each other so much that they can't do what's best for future generations (which is a peaceful upbringing without threats of violence) but no, both sides are too selfish to care about that or they would have solved this problem.


you are so one sided its not even funny.

You claim that you are nuetral yet illustrate that the palestinians initiate the suicide bombings first and then israel retatliates.

And we dont HATE as you like to label so eloquently, we just hate the actions and the people that make these decisions.

Remember this.. Palestinians are suffering more through state-terrorism

P.S I piss on ronald reagans grave


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