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tupsox
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
lo-fi choir sound

I can't think of another way to describe it

I've got several choir samples but all are much too pristine. I don't have a clip, but the general sound i'm looking for is the choir/pad sound used by Above and Beyond in their Ayumi - M remix.

How can I make this sound?

I've tried simply lowering the bit rate on my samples but thats.....really ghetto, and doesn't sound right.

Thanks!

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sonic_akb
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Manaus, Brazil

> Above and Beyond in their Ayumi - M remix.
I don't know this sound, but I think you should dirt your choir samples using something like that:

http://cmt.siba.fi/studies/Courses/...CMT_Bitcrusher/

CMT_Bitcrusher (Drive/Distortion/Bitreduction/Downsampling) is a free VST plug-in.

Lasgo (Something, track 8) uses similar effect in your drum rhythm.

Oh, I remenber other links:
http://www.psychicmodulation.com/reception.html
http://www.psychicmodulation.com/parashift2.html
http://tkplugins.free.fr/

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tupsox
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Chicago, IL

quote:
Originally posted by sonic_akb
> Above and Beyond in their Ayumi - M remix.
I don't know this sound, but I think you should dirt your choir samples using something like that:

http://cmt.siba.fi/studies/Courses/...CMT_Bitcrusher/

CMT_Bitcrusher (Drive/Distortion/Bitreduction/Downsampling) is a free VST plug-in.

Lasgo (Something, track 8) uses similar effect in your drum rhythm.

Oh, I remenber other links:
http://www.psychicmodulation.com/reception.html
http://www.psychicmodulation.com/parashift2.html
http://tkplugins.free.fr/


Thanks for your tips. I tried using the Bitcrusher plugin included with Logic though it seems to just introduce alot of noise into the sound....gives it more of a massive digital overdrive sound. Its an "improvement" i.e. closer to what I'm after, but not all the way there.

I'm probably just at a loss of words to describe exactly the sound, though anybody who has Ayumi - M (Above and Beyond Remix) can hear what I'm going for.

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tupsox
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Actually, another song with a sound like this if I remember correctly is trisco - Muzak (original mix). However, I haven't heard this song in months or even years so I could be wrong! I remember a lo-fi choir in it though...

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ZxZDeViLZxZ
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absynth 2 has a preset for digital choir type sound, its really good its more of a pad sound so you might try checking it out. its in the factory presets


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sonic_akb
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Generally, I use my Waldorf XT in order to make choir pads, lo-fi sounds and other effects. Waldorf XT has interesting features to dirty up any sound, like:

1. weird and amazing filters: Waveshaper (12dB LPF->wave-shaping filter); FM filter (Osc2's output modulates the freq); Sample and Hold filter (lower the sampling rate of the signal before routing it through a low-pass 12dB filter); SinX>12L (shaper with a sine function->12dB LPF) - this one is cool for crazy basses.
Of course, there are the normal filters: 12/24 dB LPF.

2. External signal input to filters and effects (effects are horrible).

3. Wavetable synthesis with unison/detune/osc sync/ring mod/FM etc. capable of the incredible (digital) evolving sounds, and if you want, extremely lo-fi sounds like the 12 bit's samplers (granular, you know). But it can emulate nice analog sounds as well.

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Oh, Absynth is very very interesting and can make amazing sounds.

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tupsox
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Location: Chicago, IL

quote:
Originally posted by sonic_akb
Generally, I use my Waldorf XT in order to make choir pads, lo-fi sounds and other effects. Waldorf XT has interesting features to dirty up any sound, like:

1. weird and amazing filters: Waveshaper (12dB LPF->wave-shaping filter); FM filter (Osc2's output modulates the freq); Sample and Hold filter (lower the sampling rate of the signal before routing it through a low-pass 12dB filter); SinX>12L (shaper with a sine function->12dB LPF) - this one is cool for crazy basses.
Of course, there are the normal filters: 12/24 dB LPF.

2. External signal input to filters and effects (effects are horrible).

3. Wavetable synthesis with unison/detune/osc sync/ring mod/FM etc. capable of the incredible (digital) evolving sounds, and if you want, extremely lo-fi sounds like the 12 bit's samplers (granular, you know). But it can emulate nice analog sounds as well.

***

Oh, Absynth is very very interesting and can make amazing sounds.


Thanks for the tips guys. What is the name of the choir preset in Absynth? Is it in the Absynth demo?

I'd love a Waldorf XT...but I'm about spent on hardware for the moment. I suppose if I start playing with Absynth I'll end up buying it, and its not cheap...

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sonic_akb
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Tupsox, yesterday I was testing the Cubase's BitCrusher VST with pads from Supernova II (double saw synced with HP filter) and I think it worked fine. Try it! Don't forget some filter VST with fast and crazy modulation (cutoff). Maybe I make some demo clip, ok?

AK

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tupsox
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quote:
Originally posted by sonic_akb
Tupsox, yesterday I was testing the Cubase's BitCrusher VST with pads from Supernova II (double saw synced with HP filter) and I think it worked fine. Try it! Don't forget some filter VST with fast and crazy modulation (cutoff). Maybe I make some demo clip, ok?

AK


I'll play with the bitcrusher some more tonight....i've got a Novation Nova so theoretically I should be able to get what you're getting

Post a demo clip when you have time, I'm curious

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sonic_akb
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quote:
Originally posted by tupsox
i've got a Novation Nova so theoretically I should be able to get what you're getting


Ok,
I've uploaded my clip demo to SoundClick:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/sonikakbmusic.htm

Available tomorrow, but I think it's possible to listen in lo-fi mode for while... (not EQing yet!)

Kick = made by Sirocco (the best kick set I've ever listened)
bass = SH101
pad = Supernova II
lead = Supernova II
String = Waldorf XT
BitCrusher + Ohmforce Ohmboyz

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