Ok, I have a questions and all open opinions and knowledge is for sure welcome. My problem or my whole wonder is about transitions in trance music. Now when i say transitions i am refering to is really when a new piece of your track comes in. Lets say a beat is going and into a bassline or clap, or perussion sound, etc,etc. As well as like leads and pads. I know there are many ways to really emphasize a new element in your track; Just so it doesnt get to repetative or boring. I can really use some info about these sort of elements.

I mean right know i am using small reverse's and cymbals, removing the kick for 1 beat. But thats minor things. How bout some really important things to make a track sound full and entertaining.Introductions to new sound or element.

Sorry for all the mangled grammar and spelling, these are just some brain storm notes off the top of my head.

well when i bring in things alot of time in my the intro of the track ill just drop the kick and have rest of my perc playing and my bass playing and mabey a pluck line and then after a bar or 2 of that bring in the new element to the track. Also havein the new element start with a low filter setting and fadeing in over time also work s well.

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nice nice. What you think about the amount of time using the same percussion sound for is. Like do you usually change up the type of perc sound. like hi hat or shaker at a certain point in time. Like good change ups and such.

2 bars and add some toms and rim shots to really change up the sound

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I've been struggling a bit with this as well, so i've been listening to a bunch of tunes for ideas.

One thing i've heard, just say you've got an introductory riff going and you want to bring in the killer melody. Introduce this melody 8-16 bars early, but filtered way down, or just low volume.

Verry slowly bring in that melody, so that you don't realise it is coming in. By the end of the 16 bars or whatever, the melody should be going almost full on. Since the melody hasn't come in abruptly, it won't have the listener's attention yet; all they will know is the track is building up.

Then do your skip in rhythm or whatever to mark the transition; change the percs for a new feel, and lower the introductory riff. Now the main melody will be cranking, and have the focus.

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Yeah i understand what your saying.. I have experimented , but you know what i really feel like when i trying to make some sort of intro melody i just really cant get anything that really sounds intro, it kind of ends up being repetative and boring. I end up deleting it because of it. That is only one of the many problems.

With pads and atmoshperic backround stuff. What is a good way or good type or way of playing a pad to really give it a good feel so it will really bring out ideas.. Some sort of good movement..

ive had a lot of probs with this too. i mean, i can build a track with beats, basslines, percs, melody and maybe background strings and pads, but if you listen to some professional productions, there are those little elements that just MAKE the track. i just want to know what exactly those things are. i can get the basics but it gets old so i end up finishing it half assed or deleting it

Yeah as far as elements and little things like that, those little things go in the middle of the track. There was another thread on this board reguarding off beat rhythms, Check it out it should give you a good idea on what to do. I also just work work on a track and then it gets old or I just get hung up on one part and i just move on and start something new. I have many unfinished tracks because of these little things. Pads and backround atmospheres. Thats really my big issue. I feel if i can really work on that then i would be able to come out with some leads and other shit