Sorry for the repeated thread, but theres not been one about these 2 TT's for a good 6/7 months. Ive had a look through previous threads but they end up getting nowhere really. so im looking for updated answers.


I really really really cant decide which of these two to buy, im even startin to piss myself off cos i cant decide. So im ideally looking for opinions from people who have used both TT's. (i cant really try them out myself cos theres no dj store close to me)


These are my opinions so far:

-The TTX1 is so much more sexier than the 1210's and i love bright blue LED type lights which the ttx is full of.

-The TTX1 has a fair bit more torque than the tech's BUT do you really need it!? I dont really want my arm to be butchered off everytime i touch the platter

-People say that the TTx1 has a 'digital' pitch adjust. personally, i think the display is digital and the actual pitch fader is analogue - so if someone can verify this for me, please do. I dont really care as long as i can keep records beatmatched for about 3 minutes.

-reliability: ive read some reviews where the TTx1's have lasted fine for 2 years (since they came out i think) but i suppose that doesnt really compare to technics 20 years or whatever

-extra features: they both have (useless) quartz lock, The TTX1's have upto 50% pitch, interchangeable tonearms, 78rpm speed, digital/line out, and key lock which are also useless to me since i will be mixing trance and not scratching. (and seriously, what do u need 78rpm for? is this what speedcore records are pressed on?)

theres not really anything else to look at. So yeh, i cant feckin decide, what do you think i should buy? Maybe i should make a poll and whatever wins, ill buy it.

cheers

why get anything else besides a technics?

they're the best, end of discussion. extra features are pointless. technics will do the job with reliability and years of back up.

i also think technics make the sexiest decks alive (silver, not black :P)

I was absolutley on your boat until my producing partner (who's the best DJ ive ever met/heard/seen etc) said "look get techs, trust me"

I went with that decision, and like I feel stupid to have even thought of going with something else. They just feel like quality when you're using them.

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-The TTX1 is so much more sexier than the 1210's and i love bright blue LED type lights which the ttx is full of.

Id argue against that- i prefer the look of the 1200 mk2 - looks awesome in silver. Also looks professional rather than a toy. Blue LED conversion is simple/cheap enough on a 1200 too if that bothers you that much

-The TTX1 has a fair bit more torque than the tech's BUT do you really need it!? I dont really want my arm to be butchered off everytime i touch the platter

Technics torque is fine- i cant see why you would want any more. I scratch with it fine, so do many thousands of turntablists. Also the numark platter is useless for using it to slow down in comparison to the techs


-People say that the TTx1 has a 'digital' pitch adjust. personally, i think the display is digital and the actual pitch fader is analogue - so if someone can verify this for me, please do. I dont really care as long as i can keep records beatmatched for about 3 minutes.

Not sure about this- it would be very daft for them to put a digital slider in, but then this is numark so it wouldnt surprise me. Id imagine it is an analogue one- only with a digital display on it which rounds to the nearest o.whatever %

-reliability: ive read some reviews where the TTx1's have lasted fine for 2 years (since they came out i think) but i suppose that doesnt really compare to technics 20 years or whatever

Nothing will touch technics on this point- they are bombproof- and more importantly easily serviceable and spares cheaply available. They also dont have crap like a digital readout to crack/break/go wrong

-extra features:
- they both have (useless) quartz lock
Most (if not all) tables do- it is useful at times.

- The TTX1's have upto 50% pitch
Past a certain point pitching becomes useless and sounds horrible- the common argument is use it for acapellas- lol anything pitched at plus %50 is going to be chipmunk heaven. If used with the ky lock it is useful, but again, only to a point- to go past that point you are better off editing it and timestretching/compressing and playing off cd

-interchangeable tonearms
Why? Straight tonearms are shite and feel awkward- they also wear records faster

- 78rpm speed
I have many many thousands of records- i do not own one 78rpm record. Ive never had the need to play anything that fast or forsee me wanting to either.

-Digital/line out and key lock
Useful sometimes- but introduces other problems with regards to sound quality and the alogorhythms in which it does this. For the record , every single time i use a cd player i turn this function off as i like to be able to hear and judge by pitch difference not speed difference

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Its up to you when it comes down to it
- you can either go with the established and proven rock solid one which will hold its value for many years to come which you will also find in 99% of clubs/bars worldwide
- or the young gimmicky one with no proven track record, questionable reliabilty and the ability to lose a lot of its value very fast.

cheers freak, lots of valid points there. I think i might just go with the technics.

BUT now im gonna have the problem of deciding whether to get the black ones or the silver ones

well thats a whole new post right there, (been done before too)

Keep one thing in mind... silver Techs to tend to change colors with time from silver to yellow.

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

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Originally posted by [UK]Trancedewd© cheers freak, lots of valid points there. I think i might just go with the technics. BUT now im gonna have the problem of deciding whether to get the black ones or the silver ones

its all opinion of course...or else you can just choose whatever matches best with your mixer, and other existing equipment. I personally prefer black, but i ended up getting silver anyways.

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Originally posted by Vlad Keep one thing in mind... silver Techs to tend to change colors with time from silver to yellow.

And black will eventually fade leaving a dark, dark grey. BTW, the black still looks cool w/ age.

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Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. He who laughs last thinks slowest!

in my opinion, the ttx measures up really well to the 1210/1200, but i think other measure up better.

for the ttx - torque cant be complained about, the pitch fader is analogue. the only downfall is the wow & flutter ratings which are up at 0.15% wrms (techs at 0.035%). its not that noticable, but can be annoying over long mixes. its very workable though and is probably worth it for the money you save (yes i have used both). the features are great on the ttx, beating the featureless tech to the floor (unless of course you want to shell out £475 for a mk5g, to give 16% pitch range).

but to be honest, there are decks that measure up a lot better. in my opinion, the vestax pdx2000 mk2 pro is FANTASTIC, and easily as good if not better than the mk5g, again for much cheaper! new tone arm setup, stiffer pitch fader, new platter and stronger motor. the wow and flutter is less than half that of the ttx at 0.07%, which is not noticable at all, and the ultrapitch which is by far the best on the market and much easier/quicker to use than any of the competetion.

also now available in black which looks uber-cool with the new tonearm, plus if you're really posh, u can get glow in the dark headshells for em too!

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The TTX1 shows you the BPM of the record.

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Originally posted by [UK]Trancedewd© -People say that the TTx1 has a 'digital' pitch adjust. personally, i think the display is digital and the actual pitch fader is analogue - so if someone can verify this for me, please do. I dont really care as long as i can keep records beatmatched for about 3 minutes.

The TTX has an analog fader but the display is digital. The fader basically has infinite settings while the display is going to round that setting to the nearest .1. I got that information directly from a Numark technician via a question I posted on the Numark website.

Also, I believe that the wow and flutter for the TTX (at least this is what it lists in the Product Spec manual) is rated at "less than .03%".

I always thought wow and flutter for the Technics was .01%?

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Originally posted by tu_face the vestax pdx2000 mk2 pro is FANTASTIC

yeh, i actually had a look at the pdx2300, but its got straignt arms which i dont like, and two pitch faders is just wierd. Also, no-one else on this forum seems to have them (except you :P ) so there must be a reason for that.

oh yeh, im gonna get the black techs (my old decks are silver) so ill go for a change. dunno if it will look good with my gold mixer though.