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ogvh5150
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Moscow Police Beat Up Cosmonaut in Racist Attack

Moscow Police Beat Up Cosmonaut in Racist Attack




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Moscow Police Beat Up Cosmonaut in Racist Attack
Created: 10.09.2004 12:01 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 19:14 MSK

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Two Moscow policemen beat up a Russian cosmonaut who had a “Chechen” surname, the Moskovsky Komsomolets daily reported on Friday.

The incident took place near the Vykhino metro station in south-east Moscow on Thursday night. Colonel Magomed Tolboyev was stopped by two police sergeants for a routine document check. After the law enforcers saw the colonel’s name, which suggests he is of Caucasian Muslim descent, they started beating him up. The beating stopped only after passers-by called the police station. Before leaving the attackers said: “Get away from here, you black, and tell your kinsmen we will strangle all of you, whatever the cost.”

Colonel Magomed Tolboyev is a distinguished test pilot; he bears the country’s top honorary title Hero of Russia. During his space career Tolboyev was commander of Russia’s first and only space shuttle — the Buran.

In his comments to the Ekho Moskvy radio station Tolboyev said that he will not bring the case to court as this was below his moral principles. “I am an officer of the Russian Air Force, I do not want to sue this scum,” he said. “Apart from that, there are tens of thousands of them, nothing can be done anyway,” he added.

“I could shake these sergeants off me in a second, but I understood that in this case they would have claimed that I had attacked them first. That is why I only asked them not to hit me on the back — I once fell from high altitude, my whole spine is made of plastic now,” the colonel said.

What must be strengthened is not the security measures against the citizens, but the internal security of the law enforcement bodies so that they are more civilized.

On Friday morning, an official spokesman of the Interior Ministry’s directorate for Moscow City said that the interior security department had launched a probe into the incident and promised that the results of the probe would be made public.


FORMER RUSSIAN SHUTTLE PILOT ALLEGEDLY ASSAULTED BY MOSCOW POLICE IN RACIALLY MOTIVATED ATTACK

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FORMER RUSSIAN SHUTTLE PILOT ALLEGEDLY ASSAULTED BY MOSCOW POLICE IN RACIALLY MOTIVATED ATTACK

Magomed Tolboev, a Hero of Russia, test pilot, and former pilot of Russia's Buran space shuttle, was reportedly beaten by Moscow police officers on the evening of 9 September because of his Caucasian features, "Moskovskii komsomolets" reported on 10 September. Tolboev was reportedly stopped by police officers as he emerged from the subway and was allegedly beaten despite showing the officers documents identifying him as a Duma deputy's aide. The officers reportedly ran off shouting racist epithets when passersby began calling the emergency services. Tolbaev told Ekho Moskvy that the two officers were sergeants and that he could identify them, although he does not intend to press charges. "I am a Russian officer, a colonel, and I don't want to crawl into that muck," he said. "Moreover, there are 10,000 of them and there's nothing that can be done about them." The Moscow police have launched an investigation into the incident. Meanwhile, several unidentified young people have been arrested in Yekaterinburg in connection with a recent spate of attacks on local Caucasian cafes, Interfax reported. Three cafes were reportedly attacked on the night of 8-9 September, with windows and furniture being broken and Molotov cocktails being thrown. Two people were hospitalized as a result of the incidents. RC



I see the police mentality is kick ass first ask questions later is not just delegated to the NYPD.

I guess that all cops are assholes would apply worldwide.



I left the image sources intact in hopes the interest in this article would not cease from the traffic. My apologies to http://www.tolboev.ru and http://www.mosnews.com for using these pictures and article without permission. I and maybe others, wish that things turn out better for Mr. Tolboyev.


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Poor guy...I really hope those police officers get fired.


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Another example of what hatred and discrimination accomplishes. That poor man.

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Don't forget ignorance.

Imagine if cops beat up on John Glenn or Neil Armstrong thinking they were skinheads or some other nonsense?


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at least the cops didn't shoot him in the back like those Muslims did to little children


people, you really need to see the forest from the trees


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quote:
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at least the cops didn't shoot him in the back like those Muslims did to little children

So two wrongs make a right? Furthermore, of what relevance is the 'those Muslims' comment?

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quote:
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at least the cops didn't shoot him in the back like those Muslims did to little children


people, you really need to see the forest from the trees


So the cops are better men because they only beat up an innocent man based on his name, and were nice enough not to shoot him? Thats a thick forest of bull****.


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quote:
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at least the cops didn't shoot him in the back like those Muslims did to little children


people, you really need to see the forest from the trees


Sometimes there's just no reply that need to be made.....


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Sometimes there's just no reply that need to be made.....


.....because what was said was perfect.


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quote:
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at least the cops didn't shoot him in the back like those Muslims did to little children


people, you really need to see the forest from the trees


some of them were women too... maybe they're a new brand of radical feminists!

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MOSCOW, Sept. 11 - Chechnya's separatists have received money, men, training and ideological inspiration from international Islamic organizations, but they remain an indigenous and largely self-sustaining force motivated by nationalist more than Islamic goals, Russian and international officials and experts say.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/12/i...e/12russia.html

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Guys ease up. The man is a cosmonaut and a Hero of Russia.

Fact is he got beat up over stupid blind ignorance.

From what I've learned in my life is that one bad apple spoils the barrel. Maybe there might be some decent cops out there in Moscow or abroad but the bottom line is that the ones that do the baddest things get away with it because people don't say anything.

You want to take action then learn the law. If you know the law the police can't bother you. Go to your library and look up civil and penal (criminal) law. You'll be surprised to find what's written in those books that can protect the fellow man. Bashing different ethnic groups is not what I intended this post to be. You want to bash X group of people then look in the other forums' subjects.

If you want to bash the Moscow police then do it here.


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quote:
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.....because what was said was perfect.

Which is of course why you've so far been unable to argue the point, and have ignored every attempt to discuss the issue, right?

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