Thats your opinion bro, as someone who spins both Progressive House/Trance and Uplifting Trance, I can tell you I find progressive alot easier to spin the RIGHT way...progressive is much easier to blend synth/basslines while uplifting trance usually has alot going on so it's sometimes difficult to spin it well without just using the basic intro and outro beats...a real DJ can blend synth and basslines and make it sound very good. Its difficult to compare progressive and uplifting DJ's...Comparing DJ Tiesto to a guy like John Digweed is like comparing apples to bananas...totally different. Uplifting trance has alot of harmony shifts, while progressive for the most part sticks with a steady bassline, and isn't so much based on harmony but more on atmospheric or physical sounds and not synthysized sounds.

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Once you get there you never go back to the crap that tiesto and his like spin.

I've gotten there and I still have appreciation and respect for guys like Tiesto.

I respect your opinion, but you shouldn't call the music I love "Crap"

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Originally posted by court-jester the newbies who just get into trance seem to only get off on the epic stuff, it takes a few years to develop a real appricieation for a well spun progressive set. Once you get there you never go back to the crap that tiesto and his like spin. I was once like that too, but then you simply get the progressive bug and it never lets go.

Elite my arse...no one's audible senses are elite...certainly not the way you expressed it...true enough that newbies enjoy the epic stuff....including all those who have followed the era of trance dated back to the early 90s....progressive is a sub-genre of trance and house...and has surfaced for as long as epic trance did.

It's all about the music court-jester...and in particular...about trance, in this forum, for that matter. So you can kiss your fucking ass goodbye to this forum if you hold yourself above the rest...whilst listening to your progressive shit and think that because of that very sad reason, progressive listeners are Elite in one sense or another...

I repeat, Elite my fucking arse....what a load of crap.....and please...Epic trance, for your info, is the favoured genre of all dance music since ages ago....statistical reports on sales of CD's and LP's at record stores is enough to back that statement....

Loved "it"(trance) and moving on...so some trance listeners have expressed their views on the current hype on progressive....

Well, your enormous ego ain't gonna get you nowhere my friend....

BTW, I do enjoy progressive tunes as much as epic trance...

As for your dissing of Tiesto, erm....if you can do better than him..hands down to you....otherwise, on behalf of those trance-addicts who respect DJs for what they believe in...go form your little ELITE progressive gathering and make the crowd bounce...if you can get/make any....

I'd lay off ripping on Tiesto's Epic style too. Fire's right. If you go back to the beginnings, both Trance and Prog House mutually existed, and neither is better than each other. Both came from house originally.

For the record, I was into prog house before trance, so you can't say it's more elite. Newbies only like trance since its one step closer to pop and *cough cough* often a little bit more fun.

But, the real fun happens when you cross-breed the two. IMO, the best music ever created is the deep AND uplifting stuff, things that Digweed, BT, PvD, Nick Warren and DJ Dag did in the mid-90s, and Tiesto sometimes does now. Hunt down those sets - they're like nothing else out there. Now that's what I want to hear.

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court_jester... you're stupid.

Uplifting trance is not "crap"...
I've been exposed to progressive and I HATE it. I still think nothing beats Uplifting Trance...

If you're a member of the "elite" then the elite can suck my dick.
I just hate snobs!

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beroshima, I couldn't have said it better... The best music is the cross-breed of the deep progressive and uplifting trance/house!

Now, on that remark about Tiesto, I just have one thing to say - that's just dumb! Saying something like that about a guy who was Dj-ing for the last 16 years, and has spun all kinds of stuff (progressive/uplifting/whatever), and has made millions of people happy (including me), that is just dumb... If you can do better than him, all the props, but I don't believe you ever will with an attitude like that.

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this is a crap thread. music taste is individual, period

you would understand that being progressive doesn't mean you spin progressive house. or whatever you might call "progressive trance" (that's jimmy van m style to me)

from talking to a friend, and accepting what he believes has helped me redevelop the term "progressive" for me...

a true progressive set to me is where the dj can take the crowd through different genres and make sense, from what I have heard lee burridge is a master at this.

a true progressive set to me is where the dj can go through trance, techno, house, breakz, or other genres and then sift back through each sound and create a style unlike any other.

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Originally posted by court-jester the newbies who just get into trance seem to only get off on the epic stuff, it takes a few years to develop a real appricieation for a well spun progressive set. Once you get there you never go back to the crap that tiesto and his like spin. I was once like that too, but then you simply get the progressive bug and it never lets go.

Im also starting to feel this way kinda...i am alot more appreciative of progressive trance and deep house..i dunno it sounds kinda more intelligent and sophisticated....but dont get me totally wrong i love a good uplifting track :P

thats my side


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elite wouldnt be the word I would use, perhaps you could say progressive is less immediately accessible to someone without exposure to that style of music

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Originally posted by court-jester Once you get there you never go back to the crap that tiesto and his like spin.

Give me a break! I still listen to old Tiesto CD's and the great uplifting music back in 98-2000. What is there not to love about uplifting trance eh? Nice melodies, touching emotion, fun and dancable!

Like Rob Neli said, Progressive is easier to spin than uplifting. In uplifting you have to worry about the dynamics of the current track and find another track that will carry on the emotion.

It is true that Progressive may be for a more "mature" listener, but please don't diss uplifting.

The point is: you cant assume everyone will hate melodic trance once they meet progressive. YOU may hate it, but OTHERS may NOT.

.....and TIESTO ISNT CRAP!

My fucking arse its for the fucking elite what a load of fucking bollocks! you belong at Home in London Mate oh shit but thats close down.

I listen to Epic uplifting trance so what! its what I like I also listen to Progressive house and listen to people like Danny Tenaglia, and calling Tiesto crap that your view fair enough everyones got a view and its good that they express it.

And about other clubbers who listen to other genres being superiour to others thats so shit, fuck we don't need arrogency when we go out,we don't want the fucking elitest attitude, by all means have a crack at people who listen to cheesy trance, and fucking UK Garage but don't go slagging off fucking music a lot of people enjoy, most of which are members on this forum listen to uplifting trance.

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