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dhope
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Helsinki
Unfair sentences

As we know there are loads of oddish laws in USA that shouldn't be in the lawbooks in the 21st century. However, everything isn't perfect in European countries either; nor in Finnish law particularly.

Before I explain my point further I encourage you my soul mates to use this thread to tell about sentences in your country that didn't satisfy you / that disgusted you.

Ok, let's proceed. If you feel a human life is expensive, DON'T even approach Finland. Recently, there was a mother that was sentenced to be jailed for _two_ years. She had kept her pregnancy secret from all and had given birth to a girl baby alone in her house. Then she had left the child in a pool to die. The baby had died after 3 hours. The judges determined that the woman wasn't a nuthead -- she had done it all fully consciously.

Two-phuckin'-years for this. And just to mention, the prisons here aren't probably like the prison you are thinking now. They are like hotels if I exaggarate a bit. Everybody's got own TVs in their cells etc.. commodities. And the prison the woman is going, I doubt there will even be bars.

Many things are good here but things like these... I would like to see a change, soon!

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RenderedDream
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Aveiro

well she killed the baby..that's homicide
how do you mean she left it in a pool? you mean, underwater? how did the baby survive 3 hours??

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dhope
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Registered: Feb 2004
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I have to assume there was no water in the pool. However in the news report I read they said that baby had died after 3 hours.

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa
Re: Unfair sentences

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Originally posted by dhope
And just to mention, the prisons here aren't probably like the prison you are thinking now. They are like hotels if I exaggarate a bit. Everybody's got own TVs in their cells etc.. commodities. And the prison the woman is going, I doubt there will even be bars.

Yes, and as if the short sentences weren't enough, if you're a first timer you'll only do half of it. Or sometimes even less.

If you really want to kill someone, just drive over them when drunk. That way you can claim you did it accidentally and you may get away with nothing but a fine.


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dchaves
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Getafe, Spain
Re: Re: Unfair sentences

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Yes, and as if the short sentences weren't enough, if you're a first timer you'll only do half of it. Or sometimes even less.


Here in Spain, if it's your first sentence and it's 2 jail years or less, you won't even go to jail.


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tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK
Re: Re: Unfair sentences

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yes, and as if the short sentences weren't enough, if you're a first timer you'll only do half of it. Or sometimes even less.

If you really want to kill someone, just drive over them when drunk. That way you can claim you did it accidentally and you may get away with nothing but a fine.


you can be imprisoned for dangerous driving here, and also drunk driving, which is a good thing.

although here, it is perfectly legal for an english market trader to kill a welshman on market day so long as he uses a longbow and is on english soil.


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D-res
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Milwaukee, WI

here in the US an elderly woman had the pants sued off her by a man who broke his leg while trying to break into her house to rob her... i mean, what the hell?

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dhope
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Helsinki

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
here in the US an elderly woman had the pants sued off her by a man who broke his leg while trying to break into her house to rob her... i mean, what the hell?


Yeah, that kind of events I meant when I referred to the US.

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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia
Re: Unfair sentences

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Originally posted by dhope
Before I explain my point further I encourage you my soul mates to use this thread to tell about sentences in your country that didn't satisfy you / that disgusted you.


Kevin Mitnick.

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CONNERMAN2000
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Registered: May 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by D-res
here in the US an elderly woman had the pants sued off her by a man who broke his leg while trying to break into her house to rob her... i mean, what the hell?


I heard about that. You seen the movie Liar Liar? I think they referred to this case in that movie...


There are so many stupid ass laws here in the US. There is actually a law in Chicago forbidding fishing from a giraffe's neck. Who wrote that law?


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NiteMer
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Denver, CO

Norway is similar in some ways. They are very strict against drunk driving though. Is Finland socialist?

You kill someone drunk driving here in the states and you will do some serious time.


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dhope
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Helsinki

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
Is Finland socialist?


I think many US citizens see all Scandinavian countries rather socialist because of our free health care, relatively high unemployment aid money, free children care and school systems (free school food) etc, etc. I see all those very positive things and no, Finland nor other Scandinavian countries are not socialist in the sense of what former east block countries used to be
We've got some kind of mixed system.

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