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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
Now they want to ban smoking in cars????

I knew it! Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Next they will ban smoking in homes. You heard it here first! This is your own personal space and this sets a VERY dangerous precident if it goes through.

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They’ve banned smoking in your office. They’ve banned smoking in bars and restaurants. They’ve banned smoking on public transit. And now they want to ban smoking in your car.

The Ontario Medical Association is suggesting the dangers of second hand smoke affecting children is so serious, legislation should be passed to prevent adults from puffing in the closed confines of a vehicle.

“In the car, children experience 20 to 25 times the smoking exposure they would have in a smoky bar, and opening the window a crack doesn't work at all,” cautions O.M.A. chief Dr. Ted Boadway. “You have to have gale force winds in the car actually to protect the child. So ... there should be no smoking when transporting children, and smokers should use nicotine replacement therapy for long trips to manage their addictive symptoms.”

An O.M.A. reports equates the amount of second hand smoke in a car or a home as equivalent to that of a bar. And Boadway say that could cause serious health effects in youngsters, including respiratory ailments and a decrease in learning abilities.

But what should smokers who are addicted to nicotine do about long trips? Boadway suggests frequent breaks out of their vehicle, and the use of medical aids.

“You can use nicotine replacement therapy like the gum to tide you over during that time and control those addictive problems and then smoke again after,” he advises. “You don't have to quit smoking to go use it.”

The proposal is already controversial because it infringes on the rights of people in what’s always been considered their own personal space. And a smokers’ rights organization has condemned the idea, noting it would be completely unenforceable.


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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

which moron would want to smoke in a car with his kids???

for those morons, there should be a regulatiion.

whats your point Jayx, i'm pretty sure no one will support you on this one.


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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

my point is that right or wrong they are REGULATING YOUR PERSONAL SPACE and that sets a dangerous precident. Smoking has nothing to do with driving a car and if they ever do go with that arguement they should ban changing the radio and eating.

I can see why they would want to try this but they are going about it all wrong. If anything they should charge the parents with neglect. Going about it this way is bad news for personal rights and personal space.

PS: im a non smoker who grew up in a family with a car with 2 smoking parents and i ended up fine. Also, most of the smoke DID go out the window.

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Durafei
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Yeah.. this is pretty bad..

Not smoking in front of the kids is PARENT'S responsibity !

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d!abolic
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“In the car, children experience 20 to 25 times the smoking exposure they would have in a smoky bar, and opening the window a crack doesn't work at all..."

And Boadway say that could cause serious health effects in youngsters, including respiratory ailments and a decrease in learning abilities.


There is no issue to discuss here. This is common sense. Children shouldn't have to breathe that shit.

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

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Originally posted by Durafei
Yeah.. this is pretty bad..

Not smoking in front of the kids is PARENT'S responsibity !


Exactly... the government shouldnt get involved IN EVERYTHING. If parents want to expose their kids to whatever its their business.

We all grew up around cig smoke and we turned out fine. I think society is waaaay too sensitive to EVERYTHING these days.

PS: im willing to bet that if someone smacks their kid in public now they get sent to jail. The government is giving parents less and less say in how to raise their kids.

PPS: Most kids deserve a good smack once in a while. It made me turn out well.

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malek
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Originally posted by Jayx1
PPS: Most kids deserve a good smack once in a while. It made me turn out well.


not sure about that one


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discojoe
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Registered: Aug 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic
There is no issue to discuss here. This is common sense. Children shouldn't have to breathe that shit.


agreed

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Nemireck
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Originally posted by d!abolic
There is no issue to discuss here. This is common sense. Children shouldn't have to breathe that shit.


Easy, no smoking in cars with children. Period, no kids under 12, smoke away.

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Waxen
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Ok - but just say you don't have any kids. Will it still be illegal to smoke in your car? Or what if you have kids but smoke in the car when they aren't in it? Would that be illegal?

I totally agree that smoking in a "confined" space while there's a child within it, is wrong.


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I don't think it should be illegal, I just think that anyone caught smoking within 5 feet of a small child should be shot on sight.


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