I've been listenting to an amazing set that somebody posted from Mark Oliver at Guvernment in Toronto.
To my ears, it sounds as if he is using some incredible filters as he brings his set down in the final hour, with multi-track filtering allowing him to mix in some great loops, vocals, etc. all into one pretty incredible mix.
I own a Pioneer 600, and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on an FX unit or other type of filter unit that allows this... or does it simply have to be built into the mixer to achieve the same effect.
I've heard that the new Newmark/Cox mixer includes this feature, but suspect there are other ways to achieve this as well.
Jan-24-2005 17:27
tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK
you are looking at an allen & heath, the vestax one you mentioned, or a stand-alone filter unit.
i think alesis make decent filter units, called a Mod FX-PHLTR Effects Unit.
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Jan-24-2005 17:57
DannyO
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Calgary.
Allen & Heath also sell a 19" rack filter unit that are the same filters used on there Xone mixers, also I've heard good things about Electrix Filters.
Jan-24-2005 18:07
dj chex
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: denver co
The electrix filter factory and filter queen are just superb sounding. Unfortunately, the Filter Factory and Filter Queen are no longer made.
As for Alesis filters, i think they are pretty good. I own a Alesis Ineko and imo it's the best value in effects processors at under$100 and it's sound quality is great.
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Jan-24-2005 18:28
Cheetah86
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: NJ / Troy, NY
quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
The electrix filter factory and filter queen are just superb sounding. Unfortunately, the Filter Factory and Filter Queen are no longer made.
As for Alesis filters, i think they are pretty good. I own a Alesis Ineko and imo it's the best value in effects processors at under$100 and it's sound quality is great.
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Jan-24-2005 19:06
muli
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Sydney
the Nuo-5 has 3 types of filters on it which sound pretty good
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Jan-24-2005 23:47
chrismack
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Toronto
The Alexis stuiff looks great. I watched the demo on the Eq FX unit and the Filter Queen, and they are pretty much what I am looking for...
My one question is that these seem to be studio tools rather than live DJing tools. Ie. the Filter Queen only has one input/output. Is the thought that you would buy two (one for each channel?) or am I missing a simple set-up formula that would allow me to filter one song underneath another that isn't run through the filter?
Also, has anyone used either of these live? Are they too complicated for on-the-fly filtering, or are they simpler to use than they look.
The Rane/Allen & Heath versions just have a single knob... Seems like a simpler approach, albeit more limiting.
Chris
Jan-25-2005 15:17
dj chex
A monkey without a cause
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: denver co
Im fairly sure the filter queen had one pair of stereo rca inputs and outputs. Same w/ the filter factory.
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Jan-25-2005 18:07
tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK
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Originally posted by chrismack
My one question is that these seem to be studio tools rather than live DJing tools. Ie. the Filter Queen only has one input/output. Is the thought that you would buy two (one for each channel?) or am I missing a simple set-up formula that would allow me to filter one song underneath another that isn't run through the filter?
you can hook them up via send/recieve loops on mixers
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Jan-25-2005 19:51
chrismack
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Toronto
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Originally posted by tu_face
you can hook them up via send/recieve loops on mixers
I figured that. I've never used these connections before and my Pioneer 600 manual is a bit sketchy on how they operate. Can the signal be isolated to one of the 4 channels, or does it only affect the "live" output? Is anyone familiar with how they work on a 600?
If this is a total NOOB question, please let me know, but I honestly don't know where to find stuff like this out.
Chris
Chris
Jan-25-2005 20:03
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
You usually have to press a button to active the send/return on each channel. If you don't have a send/return loop you have to place the FX unit between the mixer and the amp.
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