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winters_here
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: essex
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well imo music should reflect the life style of the producer, its meant to come from the heart, i.e if you have no inspiration while trying to make a tune your tune will not inspire others and probley sound crap and flat, where as inspiration focus and feeling will reflect in your sound and other will hear that and want that tune.
you can hear this theory in nearly every album as 4 tracks are good the rest are fillers to make the album, these tunes are made under pressure to complete the album for release hence not as much time or thought has gone in to them even hear same sample re-edits through out the fillers, most peoples 1st album is normaly the best in dance music as the lables want to push artist after the that relases makeing them rush new tracks, where as first album took years of polishing n mastering.
if your music is not part of ur feelings or it dont reflect you life style then your just another copy cat feeding of the nobodys ideas.
blah blahs is at an end
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Oct-24-2004 21:08
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Derivative
Bipolar Bear
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin
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i used to paint alot (before i started producing) and i have sort of the same problems i had learning watercolour as i do producing music.
when i used to do watercolour i always used layout a basic wash then highlight some of those areas in watered down colour, then basic detail on top of that, then fine detail with very thin brush. but when i first started out i always used to be unsatisfied at the basic detail stage and keep going over the same spot, changing the colours and stuff. it would muddy the paint more often than not and sometimes it would ruin the surface of the paper. in production i used to tweak my drums all the time, after id already EQed them, sometimes changed the drum samples and it ended up sounding muddy and crap in general. i sometimes have the habit of still doing this.
anywho getting to the basic detail bit and coming up short everytime kind of meant i used to get good at getting up until that point, and then slowed down and became hesitant to change anything beyond that in case i screwed it up and ruined the whole painting. usually id get another idea before that happened and id leave the unfinished work and start a new one (which would always be better but i rarely finished anything anyway).
in music i do this loads cuz i have so many unfinished, underdeveloped works where i get to a certain stage and reach the limits of what ive done so far, then get new ideas and persue those leaving a mountain of 2 minute demo songs still with stuff wrong with them. guess i never got out of the habit of working like that.
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Oct-25-2004 03:03
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CynepMeH
Let me wash your Apple!

Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Miles away from ordinary...
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Oct-26-2004 04:19
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Pappa
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location:
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Cyne,
Heheh, funny that you mention what you do, as I do the same thing, have experieneced the same feelings you have, with Routers/Switches, and how the packets traverse through the network, as an audio signal moves between the circuits But my producing skills, are very beginning, as I see how peeps have Soooo many tracks to do 1 thing, it seems, my mind sometimes don't think that deep, but then again, due to work, my time in the studio is limited.
Pappa
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I'm a network engineer - my work only hinders my production. I get sidetracked finishing projects for outside clients, not having enough time to work on my music. The sad irony is that I work very hard on my full time job and also have a side gig - all to pay for my gear habit but all that work takes away from my time to produce. Also, I found that I get very meticulous with my cabling
However, knowing how routers work, helps me understand how sound (signal) travels in the synth - this was the first time I saw an analogy between what I do and music. It was actually quite a breathtaking moment - that "Eureka" moment.
Tho, I still have much to learn. My work also helps me think up the names for the tunes I'm not likely to produce. Such as few days I was going home from work and this song title came to my mind "Fuck " - it actually would have quite a nice double-meaning if it were ever to become a reality. A sort of "tongue in cheek".  |
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Oct-28-2004 21:16
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winters_here
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: essex
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Sorry rico, i didnt mean to sound like i was underlineing your post,
like you said working is part of your lifestyle, there is very few producer's that has actualy gave up day job, even a sound engineer's job is not pure production, their main job is to keep studio running and put customer's ideas in audio " generaly its not the engineers ideas ".
i liked what "derivative" said
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the basic detail bit and coming up short everytime kind of meant i used to get good at getting up until that point, and then slowed down and became hesitant to change anything beyond that in case i screwed it up and ruined the whole painting. usually id get another idea before that happened and id leave the unfinished work and start a new one (which would always be better but i rarely finished anything anyway).
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i know where your coming from " good tip get a second pair of ears to listen you tunes " i forget what artist its was but it was someone like vangogh who said "you can allways add and take away , but when you cant add or take away you have made a masterpeice".
i remmember when i first started making tunes they would sound like a bunch of loop's layed on top of each other like blockS, and sounded homemade,
oneday a good m8 was crashed on my sofa and i put a CD in of my stuff and didnt tell him, i got a rush when he said whos this 1 by its a F---ing tune "he told me to f--- off when i said it was 1 of mine" he argued with, when heard others he was sure it was not me, i had to drag him in to my comp to prove it in software enviroment,,
this was good back then all my m8 would take the piss, that point onwards put the haters to shame ,maannnn wat a rush,
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Oct-29-2004 01:35
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