OK, well the moment alot have been waiting for, heres what I found over at Skratchworx:

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Out of the steamy jungles of Uganda comes top secret video of DJ Craze cutting it up with FS2. I would like to point out a few things: 1. Note the skipless vinyl-whereever he drops the needle it is on the sample. 2. Record modulation scratches actually sound like they should. 3. Note that the entire set is being recorded with the computer he is using!

So heres the vids.
Realmedia
Windows Media

Ooh, looks very nice

Interesting (terrible quality video though)

Final scratch is certainly working well there- but i still fail to see the point of it personally.
You are using vinyl to emulate vinyl but in a more expensive more complicated and potentially less reliable way Makes no sense at all
Still, no denying it clearly works well

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Originally posted by Freak Interesting (terrible quality video though) Final scratch is certainly working well there- but i still fail to see the point of it personally. You are using vinyl to emulate vinyl but in a more expensive more complicated and potentially less reliable way Makes no sense at all Still, no denying it clearly works well

Quite the opposite, it's way cheaper. How much money would you have to spend to buy 100 differen pieces of vinyl? Compare that to MP3's, quite a difference.

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Originally posted by tw1tch Quite the opposite, it's way cheaper. How much money would you have to spend to buy 100 differen pieces of vinyl? Compare that to MP3's, quite a difference.

True, but for me Reliability beats Quantity, I'm still looking at getting SSL or something as then I can buy some old MP3s that you can't get on vinyl anymore, but I am getting a CDJ so maybe I'll just use that.

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Originally posted by tw1tch Quite the opposite, it's way cheaper. How much money would you have to spend to buy 100 differen pieces of vinyl? Compare that to MP3's, quite a difference.

Well... that depends if you are paying for them or not. Id rather have quality over quantity any day of the week.
But think how much the investment into the system is. Laptop+ the system itself.
This is all IN ADDITION TO an existing conventional setup which isnt exactly peanuts, then (assuming you are doing things legally) paying to download the tracks... then having to spend the time ripping them from your cds+vinyl, editing them or whatever. I just cant spare the time (nor would want to- too much hassle).
Would take a long long time to pay for itself- and its a lot of fuss for, in my personal (and professional) opinion, no real advantage .


Like i said, its interesting stuff and im intrigued to see how it pans out. Id like to try it at some point in a demo capacity- purely for interest purposes

meh ill stick with serato...i got my CDJ for looping haha.

the biggiest reason why i love serato is just I do so many edits. Its almost godsend (I know a place that presses vinyls but they can only press it if its your own work)

FS never crashed on me...but when I switched to mac FS was plain out horrid. Now im back to PC hahaha

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Last edited by wiregen on Nov-10-2004 at 17:55

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Originally posted by Freak Well... that depends if you are paying for them or not. Id rather have quality over quantity any day of the week. But think how much the investment into the system is. Laptop+ the system itself. This is all IN ADDITION TO an existing conventional setup which isnt exactly peanuts, then (assuming you are doing things legally) paying to download the tracks... then having to spend the time ripping them from your cds+vinyl, editing them or whatever. I just cant spare the time (nor would want to- too much hassle). Would take a long long time to pay for itself- and its a lot of fuss for, in my personal (and professional) opinion, no real advantage

What ripping are you talking about. You get Final Scratch you buy MP3's most likely. A quick download and it's ready to play in FS. It costs about $2.00/track. It has worked fine for me, it sounds not different then my vinyl, so in my case, I win. I get what I want to do, play music and I get more of the music I love for less money. (I wouldn't get nearly the amount of music I do now, if I was paying $15+/each).

Many people already have laptops too, you're assuming based on your situation that everyone would have to go out and buy a laptop.

Works wonderfully for me, and I can afford to get more great music rather then be stuck with a limited amount because I can't afford more.

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Originally posted by tw1tch Many people already have laptops too, you're assuming based on your situation that everyone would have to go out and buy a laptop.

Im assuming nothing,
And its not based on my situation at all. I have two.
It was a point for consideration. Nothing more, nothing less

Like i said- each to their own.

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Originally posted by Freak Im assuming nothing, And its not based on my situation at all. I have two. It was a point for consideration. Nothing more, nothing less

hahah, me saying you made an assumption is rather ironic here.

God damn it. I'm trying to find this james zabiela interview, i read a while back, where he said something very amusing about final scratch. Can't seem to locate it though.

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Originally posted by tw1tch What ripping are you talking about. You get Final Scratch you buy MP3's most likely.

very true but i always here djs talking in their interviews about how great it is to travel with just their laptop and the fs hardware... i think i even heard some huge dj like sasha or something paying people to rip and catalog his entire collection.

its true that most of us will be buying mp3s but if i were a traveling dj who plays out alot [which i am not] i could see myself ripping my entire collection into a hardrive

just my thoughts

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