thats a bit mad that is... but why did the non-randomness start way before the attacks?

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Originally posted by tu_face thats a bit mad that is... but why did the non-randomness start way before the attacks?

yeah i dont get that either...

what do the eggs measure anyway?

arrgh...the answers to ur questions are all in the article!! anyway, tu face....it didn't start WAY b4 the attacks...it began on the morning of sept 11: "The anomalous trend began at about 4 a.m. EST on September 11."...

these "eggs"...ok...each one of them generates random numbers...now this "randomness" is a characteristic feature of reality itself...so if they start finding a "pattern" in this randomness, it would mean that reality itself isn't going quite "randomly"!! there is sumthing guiding it!!!

thats how i understand it anyway...and it seems like this reality is sumhow connected to the collective sub-conscious..which would make sense, since our actions determine our future...not that all of us wanted this to happen, just that deep down, our sub-conscious minds (most, anyway) knew that a great tragedy was about to occur...make (more) sense now??..because i myself dont fully understand it..

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 tu face....it didn't start WAY b4 the attacks...it began on the morning of sept 11: "The anomalous trend began at about 4 a.m. EST on September 11."...

still 3 hours... thats way before in my books but it is truly weird that these egg number generator thingies started before the crash... and there must be some dodgy goings on if these 'random' number generators can create these patterns without being told to...

im well scared about that, mesa steering clear of eggs from no on

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Those scientists should forget about that egg bullshit, and just step into a darkened room with a few up-for-it trance people and some uplifting beats. No one who's seriously into their trance can doubt that there is some kind of sub conscious or super conscious meeting of minds that goes on out there. Dunno what it is or how it works but it's bloody amazing when you get that feeling of being tapped into it ... of being totally in unity with everyone around you ... just dancing and not caring ... mind blowing stuff ... it's why I love this music so much

(And no, I don't do E, or normally anything stronger than a few vodka & Red Bulls when I go out ... the music is its own drug). Y'all know that feeling I'm talking about though right?

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I found that artical quite interesting. But the only thing that i didnt get was ... were are the "eggs" located. Or How exactly do these RNG's detect global consciousness?

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Bah.

Sorry. I just can't get into this type of "science". What do RNG's have to do with global consciousness? How could an RNG machine measure it in the first place? Why would it be guided by human consciousness and not, say, a far stronger electrical impulse like TV, radio or telephone, all of which would have more widely used than usual during the tragedy? That is, assuming that there was an improbable degree of "pattern" to the randomly generated numbers in the first place?

Now Mike Perry - the mathematician in that article - suggested this sort of thing "might belong more to the realm of philosophers" so, as a (bedroom) philosopher, allow me to express how perverse I consider this new-age, pseudo-scientific bullcrap to be. It exploits (by putting forward bullshit as scientific fact) people who are unable to tell the difference between different standards of "fact". No philosopher would bother analysing this due to the astounding amount of conjecture and unfounded assumption that's gone into this theory. Even if they have got some unusually organised patterns of numbers, it goes no way towards proving that gloabl consciousness exists - in fact it could prove a whole lot of other things if you had the imagination to sit around for a couple of hours and conceive them all.

Look, I'm not trying to be patronising, but stop trying to find a hidden meaning in what happened on september 11, because you're either going to end up disappointed or duped - and neither of these alternatives are going to make you feel any better about the events of that day.

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Originally posted by Renegade Bah. Look, I'm not trying to be patronising, but stop trying to find a hidden meaning in what happened on september 11, because you're either going to end up disappointed or duped - and neither of these alternatives are going to make you feel any better about the events of that day.

LOL...who said im trying to find a hidden meaning behind the events that transpired on sept. 11? i just find the idea of global consciousness interesting, and i would've found it interesting enuff to post had it happened on any other day as well...

yeah, but i know its kinda hard to understand the connection between sum RNGs and global consciousness...but for those who wanna really get into it, go to

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/ <---that site gives u TONS of all kinds of info on this project, and yes, it is backed by princeton university!!

i'm quoting this directly from there:

"The project builds on excellent experiments conducted over the past 35 years at a number of laboratories, demonstrating that human consciousness interacts with random event generators (REGs), apparently "causing" them to produce non-random patterns. A description of the technical implementation is given under procedures." ("procedures" is a hyperlink on that page)

u can also email the project director (his email is on the bottom of the page)

gonna do that rite now

peace