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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Ukrainian elections

Im surpriced no one have taken this up yet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4036867.stm etc

anyway? comments?

the scary thing with this imo is the russias big support, putin is really scaring me

anyway, i hope and kinda think too that the ukrainian people will "win" this

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dhope
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Helsinki

The Kremlin's view is indeed that Ukraine belongs to Russia's sphere of influence. I see Ukraine's situation quite same, in relation to Russia, than of that of Finland about 85 years ago. What I mean is that while Ukraine/The Ukrainian Government is still stongly under the influence of Russia, the people is turning towards West. After all Russia isnt't a model to anyone nowadays...
I'm hoping that Ukrainian people prevails and democracy triumphs in Kiev, soon.

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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas

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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

it's like my grandpa used to tell me. "you can take the man out of the KGB, but you can't take the KGB out of the man."















i'm kidding. my granpa never said that.

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Shakka
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Registered: Feb 2003
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I was reading about this earlier today. I would like to see some media coverage on the event. From what I can understand, it certainly sounds like there are some shinanigans at work.

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3xx3r7
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Registered: Jan 2004
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Does not matter who wins this? Things will not look up and scumbags in government will still pack their bank accounts from the treasury, while average people will get a stick up their ass. That is a primary reason why I moved out.


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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
I was reading about this earlier today. I would like to see some media coverage on the event. From what I can understand, it certainly sounds like there are some shinanigans at work.


watch some bbc man have been the main story the last 2-3 days

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.montecarlo.
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC Former SN: InsomnEac

Colin Powell just said that the US isn't recognizing the results of the election...

(no links, just saw it on CNN)

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donegalredneck
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I don't recognise the result of the 2000 US presidential election :-D


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trancaholic
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Aalborg

quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
Does not matter who wins this? Things will not look up and scumbags in government will still pack their bank accounts from the treasury, while average people will get a stick up their ass. That is a primary reason why I moved out.


I talked to a Ukranian earlier this year, and from what I gathered you are (unfortunately) right. The entire state apparatus is saturated with corrupt people and the sheer size of the task prevents anyone from fighting the status quo. I think we'll see Turkey in the EU before Ukraine.

Anyway, at least the election repercussions have been non-violent so far. Hope it stays that way.

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Shakka
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quote:
Originally posted by donegalredneck
I don't recognise the result of the 2000 US presidential election :-D



What about 2004?

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