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Radders2003
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Sheffield, England
Beatmatching - Pitch Control

On tt 1 there is like a slow tune, on tt 2 there is a fast tune, so i alter the pitch control on the 2nd tt really lower. But when i finally move the crossfader over to tt 2, the track sounds horrible because it is really slow. What should i do? thanks.


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CraSHer[UK]
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if you must mix two dissimilar BPM tunes (and if tt2 has to be soo slow to be beatmatched with tt1, that it sounds terrible then you should rethink your tune selection),

then simply slowly pitch up tt1 during the track, so slight that people will not notice.

Also if they are that different, they dont have to be the same BPM to sound good, try a different ratio of BPM's that sounds interesting.

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Radders2003
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but the slighest of movements of the pitch control can change the pitch of the whole song. When you have finsiehd beatmatching and your playing out record 2, do you leave the new pitch on record 2? thanks.


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djxtension
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Well, it depends if you want to leave the pitch on record 2. In most cases, you will leave it as it is, but you can also speed it up or slow it down a bit if it benefits your mix or set.

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onceler
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Not really the slightest (well, the slightest if you are using +/- 50% on the slider), it is usually around 3% that changes the key of the song. If you simply must spin those 2 songs together, you might want to think about something w/ a master pitch button. But like Crasher said... rethinking your track selection is the better option.

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R.j.
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: L, TX, USA

quote:
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but the slighest of movements of the pitch control can change the pitch of the whole song. When you have finsiehd beatmatching and your playing out record 2, do you leave the new pitch on record 2? thanks.


forgot who said this, but he/she said that the pitch of the whole song doesn't change till u pass 3.3%.


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quote:
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forgot who said this, but he/she said that the pitch of the whole song doesn't change till u pass 3.3%.


Onceler said it right above your post... just look up a bit.

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Onceler said it right above your post... just look up a bit.


whoa, didn't see that. i need sleep.


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Radders2003
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Thanks for the replies. If the 2nd track is jsut a little slow because of beatmatchign purposes for the 1 st track when can you slow it down because the crowd might know if you have speeded it up, or is this a good thing?


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djxtension
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Thanks for the replies. If the 2nd track is jsut a little slow because of beatmatchign purposes for the 1 st track when can you slow it down because the crowd might know if you have speeded it up, or is this a good thing?


Generally, when you are beatmatching, you only speed tracks up, and not down.

If a track is too slow, it will sound lame and like shit. If a track is faster, it will generally sound more uplifting and energetic.

Let me know if you need some samples to illustrate this, I will see what I can do...

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Radders2003
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Thanks. So if record 1 is slow anwyay and record 2 is fast, i would change the pitch control on record 1?


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If the difference was only a small amount (up to 2-3%), I would match by slowing 2.
If it was a larger difference, I would bring up 1 until they are closer, and slow 2 to do final matching.

Having said that, I tend to use tracks that are closish to each other in the first place, and slowly build up the tempo of the set over a number of tracks by using tracks that are progressively faster (ie are only a little faster than the one beforehand), i won't jump large differences in tempo.


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