I try not to use the BPM counters when I'm mixing (mostly because I don't want to rely on it, but also because I heard the TTX1's BPM counters suck), but when I'm ripping records I like to record the BPM. For awhile I relied on the BPM counters on the TTX1s, but then I noticed the BPM was pretty much always either 130, 133, or 136 for most of my music, but nowhere in between. I tried comparing it to BPMs found by a program I downloaded (for the Mac, called ltjBPM, seems to work well) and found that it's wayyy off, by about 3 BPM usually. Sometimes it gets confused and reads like 90 BPM, but that's expected, its just unacceptable that normally it's off by a few BPM.

Anyone else notice this?

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Nope, but that's because I cover up my TTX-1's displays with index cards so I've never seen a bpm reading from it.

Its a well known fact that the TTX1s BPM counter is shite.

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Originally posted by Cheetah86 Nope, but that's because I cover up my TTX-1's displays with index cards so I've never seen a bpm reading from it.

Couldn't you just push the little button so it'd show the pitch % instead of the bpm?

There is no such thing as a perfect BPM counter apart from the human ear. The BPM counter simply counts the peaks of the track and if there happens to be more peaks than just the beat then it's usually fucked.

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same with the DJX700...one is always the correct BPM of one track, and the other is always at 160 even if you tap the beat

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dont use bpm counters, youll never learn how to beatmatch

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Originally posted by sym dont use bpm counters, youll never learn how to beatmatch

Like I said, I only use them when ripping records. Thanks though.

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Originally posted by Ken_Allen same with the DJX700...one is always the correct BPM of one track, and the other is always at 160 even if you tap the beat

I think it says in the manual that if it reads 160, it means it can't read the BPM, well what if the record is 160bpm, then your lost...ha ha ha.

We all have perfectly good BPM counters on each side of our head, just gotta learn how to use them.

Just count the beat for 10 seconds and times the number you get by 6 works for me

Thats not very accurate though. You could easily be off by up to 10% (I think?)

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Couldn't you just push the little button so it'd show the pitch % instead of the bpm?

I have it on that setting but I still cover it up so I don't start relying on it, in case I have to use TT's that don't have any display(IE Technics).

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery There is no such thing as a perfect BPM counter apart from the human ear.

true, but numark have come close with the beat counters in the axis9 + cdx, they are as good as they get (which to be fair is fucking good). still no match for the human ear though!

but yeah the beat counters on ttx1's are reknowned for being shite.

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