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DJ PSYCHOTRANCE
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: GLASGOW/SCOTLAND
Copyright Help...

Hello, I am a bedroom DJ. I purchase all my MP3s legally from download sites like these. I use these purchased tracks in my mixes which are usually 70-80 mins long. I then upload them to my webspace and put links to them on various trance DJ forums. My question is am I breaking any copyright laws?...because my host has shut me down telling me that my mixes are breaking copyright laws.

All help would be appreciated

Thanks Paul

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wolverine16
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, USA

To the best of my knowledge you should be okay, as that is what all of us who have posted in the amateur DJ section do. There's usually some legal note on every release stating against unauthorized distribution/public performance, so it may be technically a copyright violation without expressed permission, but I've never heard of a label taking action against a DJ for a simple demo or set using purchased and released tracks. The only thing I've heard to the contrary is Tiesto was asked to use only his own material for the Olympics because they didn't want to try to get everything cleared in a short amount of time. Your webhost may see a demo as a technical copyright infringement, but most other webhosting shouldn't have a problem with it and of course the vast majority of DJs don't seek clearance for every track they play out for non-commercial purposes.


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Simcut
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dont see too much wrong with that, how are songs supposed to be heard if people like you arent spinning them in various places, you bought them legally, so no issues afaic


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GT357
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from what i understand your only in violation if your charging for a compilation/mix cd or download. as long as its free its considered artistic expression. by the way whats your web addy so we can listen to them.

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Nell
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Newcastle , England
Re: Copyright Help...

quote:
Originally posted by DJ PSYCHOTRANCE
Hello, I am a bedroom DJ. I purchase all my MP3s legally from download sites like these. I use these purchased tracks in my mixes which are usually 70-80 mins long. I then upload them to my webspace and put links to them on various trance DJ forums. My question is am I breaking any copyright laws?...because my host has shut me down telling me that my mixes are breaking copyright laws.

All help would be appreciated

Thanks Paul


it's against Uk law to offer DJ mixes for download. It doesnt matter wether you have mixed from CD's vinyl, legal mp3 or otherwise. You own a right to listen to the music, play the music, but not distribute it in any form including DJ mixes. so yes you are breaking the law technically.

having said that, your hosts are probably a bunch of gimps and dont really know what you are sharing. even if all the tracks in the set were your own, they wouldnt know and shut you off anyway.

best way round it would be to put the mix inside a zip file, and then that inside another, all passworded, then give it an obscure name.

on another note, dj mixes aren't really frowned upon by artists etc so it's not a big no-no. i think the host is probably just covering his/her arse as they could be held responsible to etc. host companys got into trouble with the eminem album being offered for download etc, although i doubt this would ever happen in the EDM world.

hope this helps,

Nell


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Zombie0729
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Re: Re: Copyright Help...

quote:
Originally posted by Nell
it's against Uk law to offer DJ mixes for download. It doesnt matter wether you have mixed from CD's vinyl, legal mp3 or otherwise. You own a right to listen to the music, play the music, but not distribute it in any form including DJ mixes. so yes you are breaking the law technically.


Nell


well here is where everyone gets away with it because there is a huge grey area in all of this. I'm pre-law right now and we have had a million talks about this topic in class. For one, even if it is illegal in the U.K. it wouldn't make what hes doing illegal. The U.K. cannot set international guidelines on internet material meant to be viewed by more than just the U.K. Meaning, the person at fault in your scenario could only be prosecuted as the download-er and he'd have to be English, not the hosting or host-er. So... what you are doing is not illegal as long as your hosting company is not U.K. based (although I do not know anything about UK law so maybe its ok even if it is UK based... i'm curious).

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GT357
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Re: Re: Re: Copyright Help...

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Originally posted by Zombie0729
well here is where everyone gets away with it because there is a huge grey area in all of this. I'm pre-law right now and we have had a million talks about this topic in class. For one, even if it is illegal in the U.K. it wouldn't make what hes doing illegal. The U.K. cannot set international guidelines on internet material meant to be viewed by more than just the U.K....


what he said.

and btw. mcprogressive = american progressive? don't be a snob jordy! what the hell ever came out of newcastle other than a terrible accent that nobody can understand (yeah i read your profile). besides your point is mute. american beer ownes all... including germany. oregon's the new world beer capital. respect! haha

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Simcut
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oi, dont slag off geordies u cheeky coont :S


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GT357
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quote:
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oi, dont slag off geordies u cheeky coont :S


hahaaaaaaaaaa!

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GT357
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yep. oregon! best beer in the world.

Alameda Brewery
Amnesia Brewing
Barley Brown's Brewpub
Bend Brewing Co.
Big Horn Brewing
Bill's Tavern & Brewhouse
BJ's Brewery
BridgePort Brewing Company
Caldera Brewing Co.
Cascade Lakes Brewing Company
Seventh Street Brewhouse
Deschutes Brewery
Deschutes Brewery
Elliot Glacier
Fearless Brewing
Full Sail Brewery
Golden Valley Brewery
Hair Of The Dog Brewing Company
Hawks Brewery
Laurelwood Brewery
Liberator Brewery
Lucky Labrador Brewing Company
Main Street Ale House
McMenamins Brewery
Mia & Pia's
Mount Hood Brewing
New Old Lompoc Brewery
Oregon Trader Brewery
Oregon Trail Brewery
Pacific Rim Brewing Co.
Pelican Pub & Brewery
Philadelphia' s
Portland Brewing (MacTarnahans)
Raccoon Lodge
Rock Bottom Brewery
Rogue Ales
Siletz Ales
Standing Stone Brewing Co.
Steelhead Brewing Co.
Terminal Gravity Brewery
Tuck's Brewery
Walkabout Brewery
Widmer Brothers Brewing Company
Wild River Brewing

Did you think i was kidding? dam i sure highjacked this thread. sorry everybody. good luck with the uh... copyright... thing. going to bed now.

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Az
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Registered: Aug 2001
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yeah it's illegal, you're not allowed to broadcast the tracks publically
which means every DJ thats ever played in a club is breaking the law

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skip
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: home or somewhere else

quote:
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yeah it's illegal, you're not allowed to broadcast the tracks publically
which means every DJ thats ever played in a club is breaking the law



no, because the clubs have "bought" permission to play music from some copyright agencies or something like that.


dunno what the law is in every country in the worl, but i'd expect it to be similar to the one in UK in most non-3rd-world countries. at least it's about the same here in finland.
so sharing mixes is illegal unless you have the permission to do so (which you surely don't have), but no one cares about them anyway.


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