Is there any country or any 2 countrys that could win in a war with the United States (non nuclear war).? I just had a conversation with a friend on this after he saw some cable show with a Canadian Military analyst. The Canadian Military analyst stated that with the airforce of the U.S. & the supreme military & inteligence the U.S. has is impossible to beat. He also went along & stated that he strongly believed that right now even if every country in the world declared war against the U.S. that he estimated a stalemate. Which I was shocked to hear. His reasonings was mainly the Airforce & its technology. Another reason he mentioned was that the military is currently at war & is prepared more than most coutries that are just exercising & the U.S. military commanders & generals are the best in strategically planning an attack or defence. I have to agree on that because before the Gulf, Afganistan & Iraqi war all the enemy had to do was put on CNN to see whats going on & what the battle plan was. Another reason the analyst mentioned was Military would issue a draft & he mentioned that American Citizens would never allow a war to be fought on thier soil.
So what are your thoughts.?

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If it happened now there would probably be a stalemate. I would defect and fight against the US personally.

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true, and glad for it. many americans do seem reluctant to fight war's overseas, but if there was a war on our soil, or that threatened our soil, not just with missles, but with invasion landings, than i think the americans would mobilize in a split second just like world war II if not bigger and faster.

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You think you would beat a non nuclear war against the rest of the world?

you cant even beat a few fuckn towel heads in iraqi for gods sake.

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Originally posted by Michael19 You think you would beat a non nuclear war against the rest of the world? you cant even beat a few fuckn towel heads in iraqi for gods sake.

I must clarify. We owned Iraq in the initial invasion. Now we are fighting terrorist insurgents that blend in with everyone else. Its alot harder war to fight. Plus if Iraq or any other country were to try & invade us they wouldnt have made it 1/2 way across the ocean before being destroyed.

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Originally posted by jonSun I must clarify. We owned Iraq in the initial invasion. Now we are fighting terrorist insurgents that blend in with everyone else. Its alot harder war to fight. Plus if Iraq or any other country were to try & invade us they wouldnt have made it 1/2 way across the ocean before being destroyed.

still would have a chance against the rest of the world, one or two countires maybe.

if canda invaved you, have to send alot of troops to defend the border, attack from south destroy, basically attack from all sides, i think you would easily lose a war again the rest of the world.

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Not another the US will kick ass post.

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Originally posted by Michael19 still would have a chance against the rest of the world, one or two countires maybe. if canda invaved you, have to send alot of troops to defend the border, attack from south destroy, basically attack from all sides, i think you would easily lose a war again the rest of the world.

No im not saying we would win against the rest of the world. But I do agree with some of what the Canadian Military analyst was saying. Also if Canada wanted to attack us. The border would be the easy part. We would bomb by land air & sea all thier military bases, communications & checkpoints. Then I think they would give up after a day of getting bombed & then reaLizing thier military & people are in dispair.

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Originally posted by jonSun No im not saying we would win against the rest of the world. But I do agree with some of what the Canadian Military analyst was saying. Also if Canada wanted to attack us. The border would be the easy part. We would bomb by land air & sea all thier military bases, communications & checkpoints. Then I think they would give up after a day of getting bombed & then reaLizing thier military & people are in dispair.

well it doesnt take a military analyst to realise you would defeat canada..


i think most canadians would admit that.

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The thing with US is that it is dependant on the rest of the world for its economy and energy needs. If the whole world decided to attack the US, the country would crumble because of the lack of resources and manufactured goods. Many US companies have factories overseas, many of them depend on foreign trade.

Secondly, let's not forget that the US couldn't simply invade Europe, Russia, or China. They could carry out random airstrikes, but not much more than that. It is likely that the US would be winning military fights in the beginning, but ultimately, the rest of the world would manage to invade. Like with Germany and Hitler. They did have the strongest military at the time, but even with their allies they simply couldn't have reached the amount of industrial production that the rest of the world had.

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What would the goal of the war be?

US could never win a war against major powers if the US was trying to take over another major country (eg. china, etc). The US although superior in weapon technologies would be so overmatched in human numbers, even with them having slightly older weapons that it would never win. Now perhaps if you had a more realistic war where allies come into play then things change drastically.

As far as a war on the USA soil, no country or countries would ever win in the US and I feel the same would be with countries like China. Although we don't have great defences here at home (eg. missile batteries etc set up) we are protected by two seas (that would require lots of ships and airlifts which would be promptly destroyed) and it would be highly unlikely that canada or mexico would open it's borders to destroying the US. Also remember that >40% of the US public owns arms and a large percentage multiple arms. You also have to factor in how patriotic many of the US citizens are, think of Pearl Harbor except multiplied by 100x as that wasn't even on the continental soil. When you have such large countries it would require millions of troops just to occupy the territory.

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This US vs. The World war really depends on where the war is being fought.
If it were on US soil the US would probably fend off any invading country with relative ease. Fighting the war anywhere else on the planet would mean that the US would find it difficult to defeat even the most feable opponent. For example Vietnam, and even Iraq today (and no, the initial invasion was not a success.. insurgents merely waited until now to attack as it is a much more superior strategy in fighting a US army).

On neutral ground the US would lose a war to countries like China, and mayyybe Russia. It all comes down to numbers in infantry, and nothing to do with airforce capabilities. Yugoslavia copped a barrage from the US and NATO airforces in 1999 and did virtually nothing to dent the military capabilities of the country.

War isnt a Hollywood movie, and it doesnt just take military superiority to win a war. The efforts of just a handful can bring down any superpower.