Thanks Mr. Moore for trying to "educate" us "unenlightened folk." Maybe then we can all reach your Zen Buddha-like state of nirvana, you pompous ass.

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Get ready for more Moore Wed Nov 10, 4:19 PM ET Army Archerd, STAFF GOOD MORNING: Michael Moore met with Harvey Weinstein and Moore says they plan to start working -- now -- on "Fahrenheit 9/11½." "We want to get cameras rolling now and have it ready in two-three years," Moore says. "We want to document and commercialize it. Fifty-one percent of the American people lacked information (in this election) and we want to educate and enlighten them. They weren't told the truth. We're communicators and it's up to us to start doing it now. The official mourning period is over today and there is a silver lining -- George W. Bush is prohibited by law from running again." And as for those who claim that Hollywood was an albatross on the Democrats' neck, Moore says, "America loves Hollywood. When given a chance to vote for someone from Hollywood, they jump in." He cited the history of successful Republican actor-politicians from George Murphy to Ronnie Reagan to Arnold. "Who is the Democrats' Arnold? We have a number of them. What American wouldn't vote for Tom Hanks (news)? Hollywood is full of people like that." When I asked what actor would trade a $20 million salary and a percentage of the gross, he countered with "Let's pay the actor-politicians a presidential salary of $20 million -- plus a percentage of the GNP." He says "Hollywood gets a chance for one more vote this year": Moore and Harvey are going ahead on the Oscar campaign for "Fahrenheit 9/11" in best picture and other applicable categories. Harvey told him, "Let's do it. And I said 'whatever Harvey wants, I'm ready.'" He isn't bothered by the absence of suitable category for a Golden Globe nomination --" We're not a musical, comedy or dramatic feature." He laughingly admits, "I don't know if people want to see me on the stage of the Kodak again. However, since my wife (Kathleen) was the producer, if I win -- she speaks!". Thousands of the "Fahrenheit" DVDs have been donated to libraries and schools. He gave them away on his trek through 63 cities in the past month -- they included stops in Ohio and Florida. The issues (for the next film) have not changed because of the election. "They are Iraq (news - web sites) and terrorism." He says he continues to get mail from the armed forces telling of their disappointments." I asked about his hate mail? "There's very little. It's dropped down to a few drive-by gloaters." And yes, he'll continue preparing his other film, "Sicko," on the national health care industry.

Is it me, or are the right wingers much more fixated on Michael Moore than I believe they should be?

What's with this obsession with him, Conservatives? You think us Lefties give 2 shits about your extremist blathering shock-jock idiots like Hannity, Limbaugh, and Coulter?

Honestly, and I don't mean this too offensively, who the fuck cares? Most lefties keep him at arm's length (or some at leg's length) anyway, and with good reason. Obviously his "influence" really didn't come to fruition for this election cycle, so why care what he's going to do in the future? Big whoop - let the egotistical slobbering ghost go, guys.

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I don't consider myself right wing or conservative in the modern sense. My "fixation" comes from the fact that I don't want another 9/11 fiasco where his face is plastered by the media every place they can manage and his propaganda is given any sort of acceptable vehicle. As he said himself, he is in this for the commercial aspect as well as any political change he dreams he can bring. He profits from his flock of the disillusioned and forces the rest of us to watch his painful display.

My "fixation" with Mr. Moore is quite the opposite, I just want him to go away, but it's hard to ignore the fat loud man.

Na, I think you pretty much summed it up nicely.

Both sides don't like the guy...lol
(he's on his own side, blathering to the whole world and anyone else that gets pinned from his fat ass...)

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Is it me, or are the right wingers much more fixated on Michael Moore than I believe they should be? What's with this obsession with him, Conservatives? You think us Lefties give 2 shits about your extremist blathering shock-jock idiots like Hannity, Limbaugh, and Coulter? Honestly, and I don't mean this too offensively, who the fuck cares? Most lefties keep him at arm's length (or some at leg's length) anyway, and with good reason. Obviously his "influence" really didn't come to fruition for this election cycle, so why care what he's going to do in the future? Big whoop - let the egotistical slobbering ghost go, guys.

Ya know, I really don't care about him. I don't like the fact that he thinks he is soooo much smarter and informed than the rest of us. Like he has an NFL Players card or something and he's therefore out there trying to save all of us ignorants. In that regard, I see him in a different light than the Limbaughs, and Hannities of the world(Coulter may be a different issue). I revel in the fact that Moore is now a failure in my eyes. All the king's horses and all the king's men, couldn't put Humpty together again. He's a big fat failure and now he's trying to rationalize his position and explain to the world why he's still so smart and great. He's in denial, and it ain't just a river in Egypt.

this is the type of shit that helped Bush win. do it again Moore! And see the country continue to TURN RIGHT!

>JM<

he should just keep doing thiss type of work and expose the republicans over and over againg and maybe some rednex will vote more difrent in the future

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Originally posted by 2fan he should just keep doing thiss type of work and expose the republicans over and over againg and maybe some rednex will vote more difrent in the future

Yea....cause god knows how many rednecks there are in the States...

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Originally posted by JM this is the type of shit that helped Bush win. do it again Moore! And see the country continue to TURN RIGHT! >JM<

You mean TURN BACKWARDS! I think we should start some threads about how Ann Coulter is a loon or how Michelle Malkin is Asian, but thinks that internment camps were a great idea and that we should have them for people from the Middle East today. And Sean Hannity would defend Hitler if he had an (R) next to his name. I don't buy everything said in Moore's movie, but he brings up a lot of good points in it that are credible.

Come on, Saudi Arabia's royal family is very close to the Bush family. Most of the hijackers came from that country & that's where they're teaching kids in Wabahi schools to "hate our freedom", it's not in Iraq. That's where the largest part of the problem is coming from. If that's some of the points the most extreme liberal is bringing up in an otherwise vey biased film, it's better than Ann Coulter rolling her eyes and saying "liberals, hmph."

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I don't consider myself right wing or conservative in the modern sense. My "fixation" comes from the fact that I don't want another 9/11 fiasco where his face is plastered by the media every place they can manage and his propaganda is given any sort of acceptable vehicle. As he said himself, he is in this for the commercial aspect as well as any political change he dreams he can bring. He profits from his flock of the disillusioned and forces the rest of us to watch his painful display. My "fixation" with Mr. Moore is quite the opposite, I just want him to go away, but it's hard to ignore the fat loud man.

I realize you consider yourself a Libertarian, and that it's not necessarily completely fair on my part to lump you in with the Conservative conglomerate. Nevertheless I do tend to think it's not too terribly unfair given your more often than not common stance with the Conservative line than with any other given party.

He doesn't essentially own any radio waves like Hannity and Limbaugh, which are pretty much plastered all over AM radio at all hours; he holds no tv shows like Hannity does, and he sure isn't a skinny little whiny toothpick who villifies and paints anyone who disagrees with him as "traitors" or "guilty of treason" like that loudmouth Coulter.

He is a loudmouth, he is obnoxious, he is quick with the facts, he does have an agenda which he readily admits at all times, but is he a freakin' spokesman for the so-called "Liberal movement"? Hardly. But tell me, given the far-right maneuvering we have seen and will continue to see of this Administration, can the same regard about spokesmen be said about Hannity, Limbaugh, and perhaps even Coulter for the present-day Conservative movement?

Uhh, yeah.

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Originally posted by Shakka Ya know, I really don't care about him. I don't like the fact that he thinks he is soooo much smarter and informed than the rest of us. Like he has an NFL Players card or something and he's therefore out there trying to save all of us ignorants. In that regard, I see him in a different light than the Limbaughs, and Hannities of the world(Coulter may be a different issue).

Uhh, pardon me? Are you actually being serious? Have you not listened to those 2 blowhards you just mentioned? I occasionally do just for shits and giggles - I think you just described those 2 egotistical freaks to the "T".

Extremists on either side really should do more cliff-diving...

without the water down below.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Uhh, pardon me? Are you actually being serious? Have you not listened to those 2 blowhards you just mentioned? I occasionally do just for shits and giggles - I think you just described those 2 egotistical freaks to the "T".

I suppose the difference(and add Coulter back to this group) is that my 3 favorite obnoxious right wingers are far more intelligent than poor, obese, pathetic Mr. Moore. They are capable of much more cogent thoughts. Bash me as you will, Opus, I am impervious to your counterattacks!

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Originally posted by Shakka I suppose the difference(and add Coulter back to this group) is that my 3 favorite obnoxious right wingers are far more intelligent than poor, obese, pathetic Mr. Moore. They are capable of much more cogent thoughts. Bash me as you will, Opus, I am impervious to your counterattacks!

You're serious? Ann Coulter somehow got a law degree, probably because she had extra time to study since she never eats, but to the best of my knowledge, she has never made an intelligent argument. Limbaugh is possibly the biggest blowhard on earth, not to mention a total hypocrite. Moore has never made a movie that degrades fat people, but Rush has certainly been outspoken on drug addiction and by his standards for other people, he should be going to jail. And lastly, in any case, Michael Moore is not the poster boy for progressives in this country!

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