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occrider
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So If the EU Banned Nazi Symbols Why Can't They Ban Communist Symbols?

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EU ban urged on communist symbols
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MEPs say the hammer and sickle is a reminder of a totalitarian regime
Several European Parliament members have urged the EU to match a proposed ban on Nazi signs with one on communist symbols like the hammer and sickle.

The MEPs, from Lithuania, Estonia, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia, said communist symbols were a reminder of suffering under Soviet-era regimes.

EU debate over Nazi symbols was fuelled by outcry after the UK's Prince Harry wore a swastika to a costume party.

A spokesman said the EU had no plans to include communist signs in any new ban.

'Equal treatment'

Possible measures forbidding Nazi symbols are to be discussed by EU members this month as part of proposed rules to outlaw xenophobia and racism across the 25-member bloc.

Correspondents say any such ban would be fraught with difficulty.

The group of centre-right MEPs put their case over communist symbols to EU justice and home affairs commissioner Franco Frattini.

"We would like to have an equal treatment of the other evil totalitarian regime of the communist system," said Jozsef Szajer, a Hungarian MEP, according to the Associated Press news agency.

Czech MEP Jan Zahradil agreed: "If we decide to ban one, we should decide to ban all of them."

But Mr Frattini's spokesman, Frisco Roscam Abbing, said the commissioner felt it "might not be appropriate" to include communist symbols in the context of discussions on xenophobia and anti-Semitism.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4234335.stm



Weeee!! Let's ban anything related to free speech that's somewhat offensive to someone somewhere!

In all fairness, I hope the movement to ban political symbolism is merely respresentative of an extremist movement of parliament and that this isn't seriously being considered by the EU as a whole.


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Possible measures forbidding Nazi symbols are to be discussed by EU members this month as part of proposed rules to outlaw xenophobia and racism across the 25-member bloc.

I wish they would outlaw agoraphobia, fear of clowns, and unhappiness now that they are at it. I never foresaw that the solution to xenophobia would be so simple.

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Gee, you Europeans must have that good-hearted wholesome feeling knowing that your federal tax money is being spent fueling these most enlightend of politicians.



I wish I knew politicians like those.. they could probably filibuster for months...


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Gee, you Europeans must have that good-hearted wholesome feeling knowing that your federal tax money is being spent fueling these most enlightend of politicians.


My thoughts exactly.


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Re: So If the EU Banned Nazi Symbols Why Can't They Ban Communist Symbols?

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Originally posted by occrider
Weeee!! Let's ban anything related to free speech that's somewhat offensive to someone somewhere!

In all fairness, I hope the movement to ban political symbolism is merely respresentative of an extremist movement of parliament and that this isn't seriously being considered by the EU as a whole.


I wish that was so, but unfortunately, some countries actually did ban communist symbols, like Hungary for example.


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Gee, you Europeans must have that good-hearted wholesome feeling knowing that your federal tax money is being spent fueling these most enlightend of politicians.


Absolutely, though probably not as wholesome of a feeling that you americans have for Dubya and his billion dollar WMD search.








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communism never launched a campaign of genocide specifically to eliminate a entire race of people, in which 12,000,000 were industrially killed like cattle.


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Re: So If the EU Banned Nazi Symbols Why Can't They Ban Communist Symbols?

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Originally posted by occrider
In all fairness, I hope the movement to ban political symbolism is merely respresentative of an extremist movement of parliament and that this isn't seriously being considered by the EU as a whole.


i really hope so too, the parliament has a lot of proposals that never goes through....

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communism never launched a campaign of genocide specifically to eliminate a entire race of people, in which 12,000,000 were industrially killed like cattle.


Tell that to a Ukranian

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Let's ban this f*cker instead...like permanently.




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that's so dumb. communism wasn't intended to bring about what people made it into. it had good intentions...good goals of equality. people just fucked it up. nazism is pure hatred and racism. but they're the same? people are DUMB.


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